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Message-ID: <20130923111303.04b99db8@gandalf.local.home>
Date:	Mon, 23 Sep 2013 11:13:03 -0400
From:	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>
To:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
Cc:	Mel Gorman <mgorman@...e.de>, Rik van Riel <riel@...hat.com>,
	Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@...hat.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@...xchg.org>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>,
	Paul McKenney <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] hotplug: Optimize {get,put}_online_cpus()

On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 16:54:46 +0200
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 10:50:17AM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> > On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 16:32:41 +0200
> > Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > > +extern void __get_online_cpus(void);
> > > +
> > > +static inline void get_online_cpus(void)
> > > +{
> > > +	might_sleep();
> > > +
> > > +	preempt_disable();
> > > +	if (likely(!__cpuhp_writer || __cpuhp_writer == current))
> > > +		this_cpu_inc(__cpuhp_refcount);
> > > +	else
> > > +		__get_online_cpus();
> > > +	preempt_enable();
> > > +}
> > 
> > 
> > This isn't much different than srcu_read_lock(). What about doing
> > something like this:
> > 
> > static inline void get_online_cpus(void)
> > {
> > 	might_sleep();
> > 
> > 	srcu_read_lock(&cpuhp_srcu);
> > 	if (unlikely(__cpuhp_writer || __cpuhp_writer != current)) {
> > 		srcu_read_unlock(&cpuhp_srcu);
> > 		__get_online_cpus();
> > 		current->online_cpus_held++;
> > 	}
> > }
> 
> There's a full memory barrier in srcu_read_lock(), while there was no
> such thing in the previous fast path.

Yeah, I mentioned this to Paul, and we talked about making
srcu_read_lock() work with no mb's. But currently, doesn't
get_online_cpus() just take a mutex? What's wrong with a mb() as it
still kicks ass over what is currently there today?

> 
> Also, why current->online_cpus_held()? That would make the write side
> O(nr_tasks) instead of O(nr_cpus).

?? I'm not sure I understand this. The online_cpus_held++ was there for
recursion. Can't get_online_cpus() nest? I was thinking it can. If so,
once the "__cpuhp_writer" is set, we need to do __put_online_cpus() as
many times as we did a __get_online_cpus(). I don't know where the
O(nr_tasks) comes from. The ref here was just to account for doing the
old "get_online_cpus" instead of a srcu_read_lock().

> 
> > static inline void put_online_cpus(void)
> > {
> > 	if (unlikely(current->online_cpus_held)) {
> > 		current->online_cpus_held--;
> > 		__put_online_cpus();
> > 		return;
> > 	}
> > 
> > 	srcu_read_unlock(&cpuhp_srcu);
> > }
> 
> Also, you might not have noticed but, srcu_read_{,un}lock() have an
> extra idx thing to pass about. That doesn't fit with the hotplug api.

I'll have to look a that, as I'm not exactly sure about the idx thing.

> 
> > 
> > Then have the writer simply do:
> > 
> > 	__cpuhp_write = current;
> > 	synchronize_srcu(&cpuhp_srcu);
> > 
> > 	<grab the mutex here>
> 
> How does that do reader preference?

Well, the point I was trying to do was to let readers go very fast
(well, with a mb instead of a mutex), and then when the CPU hotplug
happens, it goes back to the current method.

That is, once we set __cpuhp_write, and then run synchronize_srcu(),
the system will be in a state that does what it does today (grabbing
mutexes, and upping refcounts).

I thought the whole point was to speed up the get_online_cpus() when no
hotplug is happening. This does that, and is rather simple. It only
gets slow when hotplug is in effect.

-- Steve


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