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Date:	Thu, 26 Sep 2013 23:24:07 +0100
From:	Måns Rullgård <mans@...sr.com>
To:	Rob Landley <rob@...dley.net>
Cc:	Måns Rullgård <mans@...sr.com>,
	Nicolas Pitre <nico@...xnic.net>,
	Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@....linux.org.uk>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...l.org>,
	Trivial patch monkey <trivial@...nel.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <Catalin.Marinas@....com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@....com>,
	"linux-kernel\@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>,
	"linux-omap\@vger.kernel.org" <linux-omap@...r.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel\@lists.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: new binutils needed for arm in 3.12-rc1

Rob Landley <rob@...dley.net> writes:

> On 09/25/2013 10:52:44 AM, Måns Rullgård wrote:
>> Rob Landley <rob@...dley.net> writes:
>> 
>> > On 09/24/2013 09:07:57 PM, Nicolas Pitre wrote:
>> >> I'd strongly suggest you make your binutils compatible with newer
>> >> instruction syntax instead of making the kernel more complex.
>> >
>> > Meaning I play whack-a-mole as this becomes permission to depend on
>> > endless new gnuisms just because they're there and nobody else is
>> > regression testing against them, not because they actually add  
>> > anything.
>> 
>> Since when is assembling the instructions correctly, as specified in
>> the arch ref, and not in some other random way a gnuism?
>
> If you require current gnome and drop support for older versions (and  
> implicitly all other desktops), people start writing stuff that depends  
> on systemd. It doesn't matter if the feature you abandoned support for  
> the past 10 years of everthing else for wasn't itself provided by  
> systemd.

Are you saying current binutils depends on gnome and/or systemd?

-- 
Måns Rullgård
mans@...sr.com
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