linux-kernel - Re: [PATCHv6 00/22] Transparent huge page cache: phase 1, everything but mmap()

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Message-ID: <20130930160534.GB2125@tassilo.jf.intel.com>
Date:	Mon, 30 Sep 2013 09:05:34 -0700
From:	Andi Kleen <ak@...ux.intel.com>
To:	Mel Gorman <mgorman@...e.de>
Cc:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@...ux.intel.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@...hat.com>,
	Al Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@...gle.com>,
	Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@...el.com>, Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>,
	linux-mm@...ck.org, Matthew Wilcox <willy@...ux.intel.com>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@...temov.name>,
	Hillf Danton <dhillf@...il.com>, Dave Hansen <dave@...1.net>,
	Ning Qu <quning@...gle.com>,
	Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@...ux.intel.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCHv6 00/22] Transparent huge page cache: phase 1, everything
 but mmap()

On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 11:13:00AM +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 04:49:50PM -0700, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > > Sigh.  A pox on whoever thought up huge pages. 
> > 
> > managing 1TB+ of memory in 4K chunks is just insane.
> > The question of larger pages is not "if", but only "when".
> > 
> 
> Remember that there are at least two separate issues there. One is the
> handling data in larger granularities than a 4K page and the second is
> the TLB, pagetable etc handling. They are not necessarily the same problem.

It's the same problem in the end.

The hardware is struggling with 4K pages too (both i and d)

I expect longer term TLB/page optimization to have far more important
than all this NUMA placement work that people spend so much
time on.


-Andi
-- 
ak@...ux.intel.com -- Speaking for myself only
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