linux-kernel - Re: [RFC] perf: mmap2 not covering VM

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Message-ID: <20130930165420.GI3081@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>
Date:	Mon, 30 Sep 2013 18:54:20 +0200
From:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
To:	Stephane Eranian <eranian@...gle.com>
Cc:	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"mingo@...e.hu" <mingo@...e.hu>,
	"ak@...ux.intel.com" <ak@...ux.intel.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...hat.com>,
	David Ahern <dsahern@...il.com>, Jiri Olsa <jolsa@...hat.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@...gle.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] perf: mmap2 not covering VM_CLONE regions

On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 06:48:55PM +0200, Stephane Eranian wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 6:15 PM, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org> wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 05:44:41PM +0200, Stephane Eranian wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I was alerted by people trying to use the PERF_RECORD_MMAP2
> >> record to disambiguate virtual address mappings that there is a case
> >> where the record does not contain enough information.
> >>
> >> As you know, the MMAP2 record adds the major, minor, ino number,
> >> inode generation numbers to a mapping. But it does that only for
> >> file or pseudo -file backed mappings. That covers file mmaps and also
> >> SYSV shared memory segments.
> >>
> >> However there is a another kind of situation that arises in some
> >> multi-process benchmarks where a region of memory is cloned
> >> using VM_CLONE. As such, the virtual addresses match between
> >> the processes but the major, minor, inode, inode generation  fields
> >> are all zeroes because there is no inode associated with the mapping.
> >> Yet, it is important for the tool to know the mappings between the
> >> processes are pointing to the same physical data.
> >>
> >> We need to cover this case and I am seeking for advice on how to
> >> best address this need given that we discarded using the plain physical
> >> address for disambiguation.
> >
> > Urgh.. who in his bloody mind is playing VM_CLNOE games that is not
> > pthread_creatE() ?
> 
> Some matrix multiply benchmark, I guess.

So the problem is that we don't have a user visible address space
identifier; with CLONE_THREAD we have the thread group id that acts
like this. But for bare CLONE_VM usage there's nothing afaik.
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