linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH] hotplug: Optimize {get,put}_online

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Message-ID: <20131001174508.GA17411@redhat.com>
Date:	Tue, 1 Oct 2013 19:45:08 +0200
From:	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>
To:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
Cc:	"Srivatsa S. Bhat" <srivatsa.bhat@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...ysocki.net>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@...e.de>, Rik van Riel <riel@...hat.com>,
	Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@...hat.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@...xchg.org>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
	Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@...aro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] hotplug: Optimize {get,put}_online_cpus()

On 10/01, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>
> On Tue, Oct 01, 2013 at 10:41:15PM +0530, Srivatsa S. Bhat wrote:
> > However, as Oleg said, its definitely worth considering whether this proposed
> > change in semantics is going to hurt us in the future. CPU_POST_DEAD has certainly
> > proved to be very useful in certain challenging situations (commit 1aee40ac9c
> > explains one such example), so IMHO we should be very careful not to undermine
> > its utility.
>
> Urgh.. crazy things. I've always understood POST_DEAD to mean 'will be
> called at some time after the unplug' with no further guarantees. And my
> patch preserves that.

I tend to agree with Srivatsa... Without a strong reason it would be better
to preserve the current logic: "some time after" should not be after the
next CPU_DOWN/UP*. But I won't argue too much.

But note that you do not strictly need this change. Just kill cpuhp_waitcount,
then we can change cpu_hotplug_begin/end to use xxx_enter/exit we discuss in
another thread, this should likely "join" all synchronize_sched's.

Or split cpu_hotplug_begin() into 2 helpers which handle FAST -> SLOW and
SLOW -> BLOCK transitions, then move the first "FAST -> SLOW" handler outside
of for_each_online_cpu().

Oleg.

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