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Message-ID: <20131001065516.GA19718@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 08:55:16 +0200
From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@...nel.crashing.org>,
"#3.9.." <stable@...r.kernel.org>,
Paul Mackerras <paulus@....ibm.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
James Hogan <james.hogan@...tec.com>,
"James E.J. Bottomley" <jejb@...isc-linux.org>,
Helge Deller <deller@....de>,
Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@...ibm.com>,
Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@...ibm.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] irq fix for 3.12-rc
* Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 09:07:19AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com> wrote:
> > > ...
> > > the chances for a stack overrun as reported in powerpc for example:
> > >
> > > [ 1002.364577] do_IRQ: stack overflow: 1920
> > > [ 1002.364653] CPU: 0 PID: 1602 Comm: qemu-system-ppc Not tainted 3.10.4-300.1.fc19.ppc64p7 #1
> > > [ 1002.364734] Call Trace:
> > > [ 1002.364770] [c0000000050a8740] [c0000000000157c0] .show_stack+0x130/0x200 (unreliable)
> > > [ 1002.364872] [c0000000050a8810] [c00000000082f6d0] .dump_stack+0x28/0x3c
> > > [ 1002.364955] [c0000000050a8880] [c000000000010b98] .do_IRQ+0x2b8/0x2c0
> > > [ 1002.365039] [c0000000050a8930] [c0000000000026d4] hardware_interrupt_common+0x154/0x180
> > > [ 1002.365148] --- Exception: 501 at .cp_start_xmit+0x3a4/0x820 [8139cp]
> > > [ 1002.365148] LR = .cp_start_xmit+0x390/0x820 [8139cp]
> > > [ 1002.365359] [c0000000050a8d40] [c0000000006d7f14] .dev_hard_start_xmit+0x394/0x640
> > > ...
> >
> > Btw, I'd really wish people edited things like this when putting them
> > in the commit logs. I try to do it when I get them (usually though
> > Andrew's patch-bombs), just because there's just a ton of detail there
> > that just isn't relevant for the actual issue at hand.
> >
> > The kernel oops messages try to contain all kinds of possibly-relevant
> > data, which makes them useful for a wide range of situations ("oh, it
> > looks like a single-bit flip"), but at the same time means that once
> > you know what the problem is, 90% of the data printed out is just pure
> > noise and at that point no longer helpful, but just makes it harder to
> > see what's actually the issue.
> >
> > So please, after you've analyzed an oops, don't use the raw oops data
> > any more. Usually what remains relevant is the actual oops message
> > itself, and the backtrace.I try to generally edit out the hex
> > representation of the symbol information, and obviously stale entries
> > from the backtrace. I'm not consistent, see for example commit
> > 6f6b8951897e (register info remains) vs commit d6394b590029 (mainly
> > just call trace) vs commit 3e6b11df2451 (where I just truncated it
> > mercilessly). And no, I don't always clean things up (it can be a
> > bother), but I generally try, so now I'm just trying to spread the
> > word..
> >
> > Because at some point the excess verbiage really goes from "that's
> > useful" to being a blob of noise that actually takes away from the
> > message.
>
> Yeah, I did such things sporadically before. Well, it summed up to
> simply remove the timestamps from backtraces but yeah, then I've become
> less patient about that and now I simply paste the raw thing.
>
> I'll take care of that and prune these things on my future patches.
Mind fixing your commit log in this tree? The raw oops really dominates
the changelog unnecessarily.
Thanks,
Ingo
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