lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Message-ID: <20131005095310.GB28647@localhost.localdomain>
Date:	Sat, 5 Oct 2013 11:53:12 +0200
From:	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>
To:	Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@...aro.org>
Cc:	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Stephen Boyd <sboyd@...eaurora.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, patches@...aro.org,
	"linaro-kernel@...ts.linaro.org" <linaro-kernel@...ts.linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2] tick: Make sleep length calculation more accurate

On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 08:03:39PM +0200, Daniel Lezcano wrote:
> On 10/02/2013 06:42 PM, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> >On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 06:22:29PM +0200, Daniel Lezcano wrote:
> >>On 10/02/2013 05:57 PM, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> >>>2013/10/2 Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@...aro.org>:
> >>>>The sleep_length is computed in the tick_nohz_stop_sched_tick function but it
> >>>>is used later in the code with in between the local irq enabled.
> >>>>
> >>>>cpu_idle_loop
> >>>>   tick_nohz_idle_enter         [ exits with local irq enabled ]
> >>>>    __tick_nohz_idle_enter
> >>>>      tick_nohz_stop_sched_tick
> >>>>   ...
> >>>>
> >>>>   arch_cpu_idle
> >>>>      menu_select               [ uses here 'sleep_length' ]
> >>>>   ...
> >>>>
> >>>>Between the computation of the sleep length and its usage, some interrupts
> >>>>may occur, making the sleep length shorter than actually it is because of the
> >>>>interrupt processing
> >>>
> >>>So, do you mean that the ts->sleep_length would return a value that is too long
> >>>given that the CPU already spent some time to service the irqs since we computed
> >>>the sleep length in tick_nohz_idle_enter()?
> >>>
> >>>But then tick_nohz_irq_exit() should take care of that as it calls
> >>>again tick_nohz_stop_sched_tick().
> >>>So I'm a bit confused.
> >>>
> >>>>or different if the timer itself expired.
> >>>
> >>>Same here, if the timer expired, it triggers an interrupt which can do
> >>>two things:
> >>>
> >>>1) reprogram a new timer and this recompute sleep_length
> >>>2) set_need_resched() and then exit the idle loop, so arch_cpu_idle() won't even
> >>>be called. Or the timer interrupts hlt, but then menu_select() was
> >>>called before.
> >>>
> >>>So I probably missed something here.
> >>
> >>No you did not :)
> >>
> >>Indeed... At the first glance, this issue sounded so obvious I
> >>suspected there must be a trick somewhere but I did not think to
> >>look at the irq_exit, the code is very complex. Thanks for
> >>clarifying this.
> >>
> >>For my personal information, is there any particular reason to set
> >>an intermediate 'sleep_length' in tick_nohz_stop_sched_tick instead
> >>of doing what does this patch ?
> >
> >May be we could do it that way yeah. Is menu_select() called only there?
> >I don't know how much difference that would make.
> 
> Yes, it is called just one time in all the code. The benefit would
> be just to cleanup a field in the struct tick_sched.

Yeah, why not.

Thanks.

> 
> 
> -- 
>  <http://www.linaro.org/> Linaro.org │ Open source software for ARM SoCs
> 
> Follow Linaro:  <http://www.facebook.com/pages/Linaro> Facebook |
> <http://twitter.com/#!/linaroorg> Twitter |
> <http://www.linaro.org/linaro-blog/> Blog
> 
--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ