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Message-ID: <20131008214221.GB11941@kroah.com>
Date:	Tue, 8 Oct 2013 14:42:21 -0700
From:	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>
To:	Alan Tull <atull@...era.com>
Cc:	Michal Simek <monstr@...str.eu>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@...idianresearch.com>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@...x.de>,
	Michal Simek <michal.simek@...inx.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Dinh Nguyen <dinguyen@...era.com>,
	Philip Balister <philip@...ister.org>,
	Alessandro Rubini <rubini@...dd.com>,
	Steffen Trumtrar <s.trumtrar@...gutronix.de>,
	Jason Cooper <jason@...edaemon.net>,
	Yves Vandervennet <rocket.yvanderv@...il.com>,
	Kyle Teske <kyle.teske@...com>,
	Josh Cartwright <joshc@....teric.us>,
	Nicolas Pitre <nico@...aro.org>,
	Mark Langsdorf <mark.langsdorf@...xeda.com>,
	Felipe Balbi <balbi@...com>, linux-doc@...r.kernel.org,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <m.chehab@...sung.com>,
	David Brown <davidb@...eaurora.org>,
	Rob Landley <rob@...dley.net>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
	Joe Perches <joe@...ches.com>,
	Cesar Eduardo Barros <cesarb@...arb.net>,
	Samuel Ortiz <sameo@...ux.intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 0/1] FPGA subsystem core

On Tue, Oct 08, 2013 at 11:49:46AM -0500, Alan Tull wrote:
> On Tue, 2013-10-08 at 15:00 +0200, Michal Simek wrote:
> > On 10/07/2013 05:07 PM, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> > > Special soft IP presenting a PCI device to the host.
> > 
> > ok. It means that you should need just different backend for this device
> > which is able to communicate over PCI.
> > 
> > I still can't see why this case should be problematic for this fpga
> > manager.
> > As Jason pointed if this is just about JTAG emulation and your
> > data is in different format then you have to create your backend
> > which will support this configuration.
> > I will want to look at gpio jtag emulation to be able to program
> > different board. We have this support for u-boot and doing in Linux
> > should be also possible.
> > 
> > I think the question is if we can live with 2/3 user interfaces.
> > I tend to keep firmware one because it is covering a lot of common
> > use cases and it can be easily to use.
> > And then I don't have any preference if sysfs or char device
> 
> The sysfs and char device interface are equal, except I don't think it
> is right to write binary data to a sysfs attribute.

That's exactly what binary sysfs files are for :)

> The difference between these 3 options is that firmware will work for
> some fixed use cases, but either the sysfs or char interface will work
> for all the use cases.

I don't understand how one will work but the other will not, please
explain.

thanks,

greg k-h
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