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Message-Id: <5265584102000078000FC771@nat28.tlf.novell.com>
Date:	Mon, 21 Oct 2013 15:37:21 +0100
From:	"Jan Beulich" <JBeulich@...e.com>
To:	"Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk" <konrad.wilk@...cle.com>
Cc:	<ian.campbell@...rix.com>, <ross.philipson@...rix.com>,
	<stefano.stabellini@...citrix.com>, <grub-devel@....org>,
	<david.woodhouse@...el.com>, <richard.l.maliszewski@...el.com>,
	"xen-devel" <xen-devel@...ts.xenproject.org>,
	<boris.ostrovsky@...cle.com>,
	"Daniel Kiper" <daniel.kiper@...cle.com>, <pjones@...hat.com>,
	<linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, <keir@....org>
Subject: Re: EFI and multiboot2 devlopment work for Xen

>>> On 21.10.13 at 16:23, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@...cle.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 02:36:38PM +0100, Jan Beulich wrote:
>> >>> On 21.10.13 at 14:57, Daniel Kiper <daniel.kiper@...cle.com> wrote:
>> 
>> (Looking at the Cc list it's quite interesting that you copied a
>> whole lot of people, but not me as the maintainer of the EFI
>> bits in Xen.)
> 
> I see this:
> 
> From: Daniel Kiper <daniel.kiper@...cle.com>
> To: boris.ostrovsky@...cle.com, david.woodhouse@...el.com,
>         ian.campbell@...rix.com, jbeulich@...e.com, keir@....org,
> 
> 
> You are on the 'To' instead of the 'CC'. That should make the email
> arrive at your mailbox much quicker than through the mailing list?

Indeed - I was clearly looking at the wrong place. I'm very sorry.

>> > What do you think about that?
>> > Any comments, suggestions, objections?
>> 
>> The complications here make it pretty clear to me that the
>> GrUB2-less solution (or, if GruB2 absolutely has to be involved,
>> its chain loading capability) I have been advocating continues
>> to be the better (and, as said before, conceptually correct)
>> model.
> 
> However my understanding is that the general distro approach is
> to use GRUB2 and I think we want to follow the mainstream on this.
> Which means using GRUB2 and making sense of the myrid of patches
> that each distro has.

As does ours - and we simply use the chain loading mechanism as
I'm told (and as I suggested - I'm only occasionally involved in the
secure boot stuff).

Jan


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