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Message-ID: <CAGdX0WG1gmC-ZXn5BFRMD5FM2r5d3oxvDU61-xFrT90badv3tg@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Thu, 24 Oct 2013 20:11:36 +0800
From:	Jovi Zhangwei <jovi.zhangwei@...il.com>
To:	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>
Cc:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
	"zhangwei(Jovi)" <jovi.zhangwei@...wei.com>,
	Frédéric Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...radead.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Tom Zanussi <tom.zanussi@...ux.intel.com>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@...nel.org>,
	David Ahern <dsahern@...il.com>, Jiri Olsa <jolsa@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: ktap inclusion in drivers/staging/?

On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org> wrote:
> On Thu, 2013-10-24 at 09:58 +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>> Greg,
>>
>> I was surprised to see 'ktap' appear in the staging tree silently,
>> via these commits that are visible in today's staging-next:
>>
>>  2c856b9e3e06 staging: ktap: remove unused <asm/syscall.h> header file
>>  687b63a3bfd5 staging: ktap: update email name in MAINTAINERS
>>  c63a164271f8 staging: ktap: add to the kernel tree
>>
>> ktap is pretty fresh instrumentation code, announced on lkml a
>> couple of months ago, and so far I haven't seen much technical
>> discussion of integrating ktap upstream, mostly I suspect because
>> not a _single_ patch was sent to linux-kernel for review. (!)
>
> I feel I'm partially to blame. Jovi has sent us several emails to look
> at his tree and I told him I would when I get time. What I should have
> done was told him to break up the changes and send them out as a patch
> series.
>
Steven, it's my fault, I'm really sorry for this.

When Greg kindly tried to help merge this into staging tree, I should
talk to you guys firstly, at that time I thought drivers/staging would
be a proper place to cleanup code or integrate with other subsystem,
I'm wrong on this, entirely my fault.

>
>>
>> An announcement of a Git tree was made (which Git tree is not very
>> structured), and some very minimal discussion ensued, but no actual
>> patches were sent with an intent to merge, no technical arguments
>> were made in favor of merging and nothing conclusive was achieved.
>
> Again, this may be partially our fault. We should have told Jovi to send
> out the patches and a pointer to a git tree is not acceptable. Then we
> could have had the necessary discussions required for this.
>
> But I agree, this should not be just dumped into the staging tree until
> the patches themselves have been posted and reviewed.
>
> I'll have to NAK it too.
>
Accept, also with Ingo's.

I admit there have many places need to cleanup in ktap code, and there
also have a long todo list, I will finish it before start review process.

Again, really sorry for this, please forgive me this mistake.

Jovi.
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