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Date:	Sun, 27 Oct 2013 09:20:20 +0000
From:	Josh Triplett <josh@...htriplett.org>
To:	Thomas Rast <tr@...masrast.ch>
Cc:	Michael Haggerty <mhagger@...m.mit.edu>, git@...r.kernel.org,
	Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@...cle.com>,
	Greg KH <greg@...ah.com>,
	ksummit-2013-discuss@...ts.linuxfoundation.org,
	ksummit-attendees@...ts.linuxfoundation.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] commit: Add -f, --fixes <commit> option to add Fixes:
 line

On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 09:09:32AM +0100, Thomas Rast wrote:
> Josh Triplett <josh@...htriplett.org> writes:
> 
> > On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 06:42:44AM +0100, Michael Haggerty wrote:
> >> But I don't think that this feature should be given the "-f" short
> >> option, as (a) -f often means "force"; (b) it will increase the
> >> confusion with --fixup; (c) it just doesn't strike me as being likely to
> >> be such a frequently-used option (though if this changes over time the
> >> "-f" option could always be granted to it later).
> >
> > (a) -n often means --dry-run, but for commit it means --no-verify.
> > Different commands have different options, and commit doesn't have a
> > --force to abbreviate as -f.
> >
> > (b) If anything, I think the existence of a short option will make the
> > distinction more obvious, since -f and --fixup are much less similar
> > than --fixes and --fixup.  Most users will never type --fixes, making
> > confusion unlikely.
> >
> > (c) Short option letters tend to be first-come first-serve unless
> > there's a strong reason to do otherwise.  Why reserve 'f' for some
> > hypothetical future option that doesn't exist yet?
> 
> No, lately the direction in Git has been to avoid giving options a
> one-letter shorthand until they have proven so useful that people using
> it in the wild start to suggest that it should have one.
> 
> See e.g.
> 
>   http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/233998
>   http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/168748

Fair enough; easy enough to drop -f if that's the consensus.  However...

> A much better argument would be if it was already clear from the specs
> laid out for Fixes that n% of the kernel commits will end up having this
> footer, and thus kernel hackers will spend x amount of time spelling out
> --fixes and/or confusing it with --fixup to much headache.

...good suggestion:

~/src/linux$ git log --grep='stable@' --oneline --since='1 year ago' | wc -l
2769
~/src/linux$ git log --grep='stable@' --oneline --since='1 year ago' --pretty=format:%an | sort -u | wc -l
839

Several thousand commits per year by hundreds of unique people seems
like enough to justify a short option.

- Josh Triplett
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