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Date:	Tue, 29 Oct 2013 21:15:46 +0100
From:	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>
To:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
Cc:	Victor Kaplansky <VICTORK@...ibm.com>,
	Anton Blanchard <anton@...ba.org>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@...nel.crashing.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Linux PPC dev <linuxppc-dev@...abs.org>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...ymtl.ca>,
	Michael Ellerman <michael@...erman.id.au>,
	Michael Neuling <mikey@...ling.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: perf events ring buffer memory barrier on powerpc

On 10/29, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>
> On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 11:30:57AM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > @@ -154,9 +175,11 @@ int perf_output_begin(struct perf_output
> >  		 * Userspace could choose to issue a mb() before updating the
> >  		 * tail pointer. So that all reads will be completed before the
> >  		 * write is issued.
> > +		 *
> > +		 * See perf_output_put_handle().
> >  		 */
> >  		tail = ACCESS_ONCE(rb->user_page->data_tail);
> > -		smp_rmb();
> > +		smp_mb();
> >  		offset = head = local_read(&rb->head);
> >  		head += size;
> >  		if (unlikely(!perf_output_space(rb, tail, offset, head)))
>
> That said; it would be very nice to be able to remove this barrier. This
> is in every event write path :/

Yes.. And I'm afraid very much that I simply confused you. Perhaps Victor
is right and we do not need this mb(). So I am waiting for the end of
this story too.

And btw I do not understand why we need it (or smp_rmb) right after
ACCESS_ONCE(data_tail).

Oleg.

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