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Message-ID: <OF6655E55D.554B7448-ON42257C16.00442B8B-42257C16.0048995E@il.ibm.com>
Date:	Fri, 1 Nov 2013 15:12:58 +0200
From:	Victor Kaplansky <VICTORK@...ibm.com>
To:	paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com
Cc:	Anton Blanchard <anton@...ba.org>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@...nel.crashing.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Linux PPC dev <linuxppc-dev@...abs.org>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...ymtl.ca>,
	Michael Ellerman <michael@...erman.id.au>,
	Michael Neuling <mikey@...ling.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
Subject: Re: perf events ring buffer memory barrier on powerpc

"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote on 10/31/2013
08:16:02 AM:

> > BTW, it is why you also don't need ACCESS_ONCE() around @tail, but only
> > around
> > @head read.

Just to be sure, that we are talking about the same code - I was
considering
ACCESS_ONCE() around @tail in point AAA in the following example from
Documentation/circular-buffers.txt for CONSUMER:

        unsigned long head = ACCESS_ONCE(buffer->head);
        unsigned long tail = buffer->tail;      /* AAA */

        if (CIRC_CNT(head, tail, buffer->size) >= 1) {
                /* read index before reading contents at that index */
                smp_read_barrier_depends();

                /* extract one item from the buffer */
                struct item *item = buffer[tail];

                consume_item(item);

                smp_mb(); /* finish reading descriptor before incrementing
tail */

                buffer->tail = (tail + 1) & (buffer->size - 1); /* BBB */
        }

>
> If you omit the ACCESS_ONCE() calls around @tail, the compiler is within
> its rights to combine adjacent operations and also to invent loads and
> stores, for example, in cases of register pressure.

Right. And I was completely aware about these possible transformations when
said that ACCESS_ONCE() around @tail in point AAA is redundant. Moved, or
even
completely dismissed reads of @tail in consumer code, are not a problem at
all,
since @tail is written exclusively by CONSUMER side.


> It is also within
> its rights to do piece-at-a-time loads and stores, which might sound
> unlikely, but which can actually has happened when the compiler figures
> out exactly what is to be stored at compile time, especially on hardware
> that only allows small immediate values.

As for writes to @tail, the ACCESS_ONCE around @tail at point AAA,
doesn't prevent in any way an imaginary super-optimizing compiler
from moving around the store to @tail (which appears in the code at point
BBB).

It is why ACCESS_ONCE at point AAA is completely redundant.

-- Victor

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