linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v2 0/2] vmpslice support for zero-copy gifting of pages

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Message-ID: <5277BE6D.1040002@suse.cz>
Date:	Mon, 04 Nov 2013 16:34:05 +0100
From:	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@...e.cz>
To:	Robert Jennings <rcj@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Cc:	linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org, linux-mm@...ck.org,
	Alexander Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@...hat.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@...hat.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave@...1.net>,
	Matt Helsley <matt.helsley@...il.com>,
	Anthony Liguori <anthony@...emonkey.ws>,
	Michael Roth <mdroth@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Lei Li <lilei@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Leonardo Garcia <lagarcia@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Simon Jin <simonjin@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/2] vmpslice support for zero-copy gifting of pages

On 10/25/2013 05:46 PM, Robert Jennings wrote:
> From: Robert C Jennings <rcj@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
> 
> This patch set would add the ability to move anonymous user pages from one
> process to another through vmsplice without copying data.  Moving pages
> rather than copying is implemented for a narrow case in this RFC to meet
> the needs of QEMU's usage (below).
> 
> Among the restrictions the source address and destination addresses must
> be page aligned, the size argument must be a multiple of page size,
> and by the time the reader calls vmsplice, the page must no longer be
> mapped in the source.  If a move is not possible the code transparently
> falls back to copying data.
> 
> This comes from work in QEMU[1] to migrate a VM from one QEMU instance
> to another with minimal down-time for the VM.  This would allow for an
> update of the QEMU executable under the VM.

Hello,

since this seems somewhat narrow use case for a syscall change, it would
be helpful if you included a larger discussion of considered existing
alternatives, with benchmark results justifying the changed syscall. E.g.:
- Cross Memory Attach comes to mind as one alternative to vmsplice.
Although it does perform a single copy, there are results suggesting
zero-copy doesn't necessarily add that much gain:
  http://marc.info/?l=linux-mm&m=130105930902915&w=2
- Would it be possible for QEMU to use shared memory to begin with?
Since you are already restricting this to page-aligned regions.

Ideally the benchmark results would also include the THP support when
complete.

Thanks,
Vlastimil

> New flag usage
> This introduces use of the SPLICE_F_MOVE flag for vmsplice, previously
> unused.  Proposed usage is as follows:
> 
>  Writer gifts pages to pipe, can not access original contents after gift:
>     vmsplice(fd, iov, nr_segs, (SPLICE_F_GIFT | SPLICE_F_MOVE);
>  Reader asks kernel to move pages from pipe to memory described by iovec:
>     vmsplice(fd, iov, nr_segs, SPLICE_F_MOVE);
> 
> Moving pages rather than copying is implemented for a narrow case in
> this RFC to meet the needs of QEMU's usage.  If a move is not possible
> the code transparently falls back to copying data.
> 
> For older kernels the SPLICE_F_MOVE would be ignored and a copy would occur.
> 
> [1] QEMU localhost live migration:
> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2013-10/msg02787.html
> 
> Changes from V1:
>  - Cleanup zap coalescing in splice_to_pipe for readability
>  - Field added to struct partial_page in v1 was unnecessary, using
>    private field instead.
>  - Read-side code in pipe_to_user pulled out into a new function
>  - Improved documentation of read-side flipping code
>  - Fixed locking issue in read-size flipping code found by sparse
>  - Updated vmsplice comments for vmsplice_to_user(),
>    vmsplice_to_pipe, and vmsplice syscall
> _______________________________________________________
> 
>   vmsplice: unmap gifted pages for recipient
>   vmsplice: Add limited zero copy to vmsplice
> 
>  fs/splice.c | 159 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++----
>  1 file changed, 150 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)
> 

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