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Date:	Mon, 4 Nov 2013 11:34:37 +0530
From:	Kishon Vijay Abraham I <kishon@...com>
To:	Tomasz Figa <tomasz.figa@...il.com>
CC:	Matt Porter <matt.porter@...aro.org>,
	<linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>,
	Felipe Balbi <balbi@...com>,
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	Kumar Gala <galak@...eaurora.org>,
	Ian Campbell <ijc+devicetree@...lion.org.uk>,
	Christian Daudt <bcm@...thebug.org>,
	Paul Zimmerman <paulz@...opsys.com>,
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	Linaro Patches <patches@...aro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/9] phy: add phy_get_bus_width()/phy_set_bus_width()
 calls

Hi,

On Saturday 02 November 2013 11:28 PM, Tomasz Figa wrote:
> On Saturday 02 of November 2013 13:47:09 Matt Porter wrote:
>> On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 10:46:55PM +0530, Kishon Vijay Abraham I wrote:
>>> Hi Tomasz,
>>>
>>> On Saturday 02 November 2013 06:44 PM, Tomasz Figa wrote:
>>>> Hi Matt,
>>>>
>>>> On Friday 01 of November 2013 15:45:50 Matt Porter wrote:
>>>>> This adds a pair of APIs that allows the generic PHY subsystem to
>>>>> provide information on the PHY bus width. The PHY provider driver
>>>>> may
>>>>> use phy_set_bus_width() to set the bus width that the PHY supports.
>>>>> The controller driver may then use phy_get_bus_width() to fetch the
>>>>> PHY bus width in order to properly configure the controller.
>>>>
>>>> I somehow does not like this. If we take this path for any further
>>>> properties that we may need, we will end up with a lot of consumer
>>>> specific properties stored in a PHY object having their own accessor
>>>> functions.
>>>
>>> Only after all of us feel that a property is *generic* enough, we
>>> allow it to be added in the PHY object.
>>
>> I also want to note that this was discussed over in another thread [2]
>> where you did consider my rough stab at a more generic attribute
>> accessor. It was definitely my first reaction as the way to do it like
>> Tomasz has said. The specific accessors are more readable to me besides
>> the justification you mention above.
>>
>> [2] http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1310.3/00673.html
>
> Personally I like that version much better, but still it would need to be
> polished a bit.
>
> How I imagine such interface to be implemented:
>
> phy.h:
>
> struct phy {
> 	// ...
> 	const struct phy_attrs *attrs;
> 	// ...
> };
>
> static inline const struct phy_attrs *phy_get_attrs(struct phy *phy) {
> 	return phy->attrs;
> };

API's like get_attrs is loosely defined. I'd prefer to have fully 
defined APIs. There might be other attributes which the consumer might 
not be interested in. Instead of returning the entire structure, it 
would be better if we have facilities for the consumer to request only 
the required attributes.
>
> phy driver:
>
> static const struct phy_attrs my_phy_attrs = {
> 	// ...
> };
>
> static int my_phy_probe(...)
> {
> 	// ...
> 	phy = devm_phy_create_attrs(dev, &ops, &my_phy_attrs, NULL);
> 	// ...
> }
>
> phy consumer:
>
> 	// ...
> 	const struct phy_attrs *phy_attrs;
>
> 	phy_attrs = phy_get_attrs(phy);
> 	// ...
>
> Why I think it is better than what I've seen in this and previous instance
> of this thread? (in random order)
>   a) Only the PHY driver can set the attrs.
>   b) PHY consumer has access only to a const pointer.
>   c) PHY attributes can be placed in a static struct inside a driver file,
> without the need to call any functions to set particular attributes.

Agree with all your points for setting the attributes apart from the 
fact that we won't be able to add any validation criteria for the 
attributes while setting it if needed and also there won't be symmetric 
APIs for getting and setting the attributes..

Cheers
Kishon
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