linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 4/5] perf record: mmap output file

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Message-ID: <52824AE3.4050207@gmail.com>
Date:	Tue, 12 Nov 2013 08:36:03 -0700
From:	David Ahern <dsahern@...il.com>
To:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...stprotocols.net>
CC:	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, mingo@...nel.org, jolsa@...hat.com,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@...nel.org>,
	Mike Galbraith <efault@....de>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@...gle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/5] perf record: mmap output file - v5

On 11/12/13, 8:19 AM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 12:07:51PM -0300, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo wrote:
>> Em Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 03:57:07PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra escreveu:
>>> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 07:46:56AM -0700, David Ahern wrote:
>>>> When recording raw_syscalls for the entire system, e.g.,
>>>>      perf record -e raw_syscalls:*,sched:sched_switch -a -- sleep 1
>>>>
>>>> you end up with a negative feedback loop as perf itself calls write() fairly
>>>> often. This patch handles the problem by mmap'ing the file in chunks of 64M at
>>>> a time and copies events from the event buffers to the file avoiding write
>>>> system calls.
>>>
>>> You know this completely fails the moment you trace faults, because
>>> every new access to one of those pages (to mark it dirty) will trigger a
>>> fault. And we'll take a bunch more faults -- one for each page -- than
>>> we ever did write() syscalls.
>>
>> So we should provide a neon lettered warning when doing that, no? :-)
>
> Dunno.. it _should_ all work. Try it and see what it does.. Once the
> events are bigger than a page things might get 'interesting' though.
>

one option here is not allow page faults and system wide system calls. 
system wide tracing needs mmap; page faults for a task can use write(). 
I left that option in case something like this came up.

David
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