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Message-ID: <20131114233055.GR10371@xanatos>
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 15:30:55 -0800
From: Sarah Sharp <sarah.a.sharp@...ux.intel.com>
To: Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>
Cc: Julius Werner <jwerner@...omium.org>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
"linux-usb@...r.kernel.org" <linux-usb@...r.kernel.org>,
Benson Leung <bleung@...omium.org>,
Vincent Palatin <vpalatin@...omium.org>,
"Alexis R. Cortes" <alexis.cortes@...com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] usb: hub: Use correct reset for wedged USB3 devices that
are NOTATTACHED
On Thu, Nov 07, 2013 at 10:32:33AM -0500, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Nov 2013, Julius Werner wrote:
>
> > > What if the device is in USB_STATE_SUSPENDED?
> >
> > I'm not sure that is possible at that point in hub_events(), I don't
> > know of a way that could lead to this situation. I could still add the
> > check just to be sure if you want it, though.
>
> I don't know either. But Sarah has said that ports can spontaneously
> go into Compliance Mode for no apparent reason. If that can happen,
> maybe it can happen while the port is in U3 and the device is
> suspended. In such cases, though, you'd need to do a reset-resume
> rather than a simple reset.
Looking at commits c3897aa5386faba77e5bbdf94902a1658d3a5b11 and
71c731a296f1b08a3724bd1b514b64f1bda87a23, it seems that the TI host
controllers' ports can go into compliance mode only when a device is
inserted. Once the device is link trained by the redriver, the port
shouldn't go into compliance mode. So we should never see compliance
mode on a port with an attached USB device in suspend.
Alex, can you confirm that the TI host's port won't go into compliance
mode while a connected device is suspended?
> > > Not at all. If a device is unplugged, its state changes to NOTATTACHED
> > > before the driver is unbound. During that time, the driver will see
> > > all its URBs failing, so it may very well try to reset the device.
> > > (For example, usbhid behaves like this.) That isn't a bug.
> >
> > Oh, okay, I wasn't quite sure how that plays together. Would you think
> > it's still valuable to print it out (maybe as dev_info() instead of
> > dev_warn()) instead of just silently ignoring the reset request? It
> > would have certainly been useful for me to find this problem faster,
> > but I can take it out again if you think it would result in too much
> > noise.
>
> I think keeping dev_dbg() is best. If you're searching for the
> solution to a problem, you should have debugging enabled and so you
> ought to see the message.
>
> Alan Stern
>
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