linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 04/40] staging/lustre/llite: Access to released file trigs a restore

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Message-ID: <CA+a=Yy5sd45W-cuocyE7CPeDy879XHO80C9Wg8ut_0_u0j3Zzw@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Tue, 19 Nov 2013 21:29:55 +0800
From:	Peng Tao <bergwolf@...il.com>
To:	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>
Cc:	"Dilger, Andreas" <andreas.dilger@...el.com>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"faibish, sorin" <faibish_sorin@....com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 04/40] staging/lustre/llite: Access to released file trigs
 a restore

On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 9:52 PM, Greg Kroah-Hartman
<gregkh@...uxfoundation.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 02:07:02PM +0800, Peng Tao wrote:
>> >> > So, why would I believe that you all are really going to start doing the
>> >> > major cleanup work on this code that is so obviously needed?  Why would
>> >> > I take new features that you are spending your time on instead?
>> >> >
>> >> My apologize. I was distracted by other projects for some time and I
>> >> am trying to make it up. I thought you agreed that I can first close
>> >> the patch gap between in-kernel client and external tree, and then add
>> >> cleanup patches, no?
>> >
>> > What exactly is "the gap"?  Are we talking 200 patches?  10?  100?  I
>> > have no idea what you are referring to, but realize I can't review 100
>> > patches at a single time easily.
>> >
>> Right now, I think it is about 150 patches. I will split them into
>> smaller chunks (10 patches or in each patchset) and send them
>> incrementally.
>
> Good.
>
>> > And what happens when I accep these "gap" patches?  Will development in
>> > this external tree suddenly stop?  It sure doesn't seem like this is
>> > happening as I thought it would have already since the code has been in
>> > the kernel for over 6 months now.
>> >
>> No, it won't stop. The biggest feature coming in this time is HSM. In
>> future, I think there will be less features and more bug fixes.
>> Porting patches from external tree isn't just to make the two tree in
>> sync. External tree contains many bug fix patches that in kernel
>> client wants as well. If we stop porting, as time goes by, the in tree
>> client will be less featured, and more buggy than external tree. When
>> we get it out of staging like that, it will be very hard to persuade
>> people to use it.
>
> So, who is going to take the time to do the cleanup and work involved in
> getting this into mergable state, if developers are off adding new
> features to your out-of-tree kernel code?
>
I am to work on it.

> I _really_ hate taking new features for staging drivers, as that shows
> that the developers are using staging as just a dumping ground to get
> stuff merged, without taking the time to get it cleaned up properly.
>
> If this continues, and no major work is done to clean things up within
> the next 6 months (i.e. the same thing as the past 6 months.) this code
> will be deleted from the tree.  You have been warned.
>
Got it.

Thanks,
Tao
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