linux-kernel - Re: user defined OOM policies

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Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1311201933420.7167@chino.kir.corp.google.com>
Date:	Wed, 20 Nov 2013 19:36:00 -0800 (PST)
From:	David Rientjes <rientjes@...gle.com>
To:	Luigi Semenzato <semenzato@...gle.com>
cc:	Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.cz>, linux-mm@...ck.org,
	Greg Thelen <gthelen@...gle.com>,
	Glauber Costa <glommer@...il.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@...e.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@...xchg.org>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@...fujitsu.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@...hat.com>,
	Joern Engel <joern@...fs.org>, Hugh Dickins <hughd@...gle.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: user defined OOM policies

On Wed, 20 Nov 2013, Luigi Semenzato wrote:

> Chrome OS uses a custom low-memory notification to minimize OOM kills.
>  When the notifier triggers, the Chrome browser tries to free memory,
> including by shutting down processes, before the full OOM occurs.  But
> OOM kills cannot always be avoided, depending on the speed of
> allocation and how much CPU the freeing tasks are able to use
> (certainly they could be given higher priority, but it get complex).
> 
> We may end up using memcg so we can use the cgroup
> memory.pressure_level file instead of our own notifier, but we have no
> need for finer control over OOM kills beyond the very useful kill
> priority.  One process at a time is good enough for us.
> 

Even with your own custom low-memory notifier or memory.pressure_level, 
it's still possible that all memory is depleted and you run into an oom 
kill before your userspace had a chance to wakeup and prevent it.  I think 
what you'll want is either your custom notifier of memory.pressure_level 
to do pre-oom freeing but fallback to a userspace oom handler that 
prevents kernel oom kills until it ensures userspace did everything it 
could to free unneeded memory, do any necessary logging, etc, and do so 
over a grace period of memory.oom_delay_millisecs before the kernel 
eventually steps in and kills.
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