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Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 17:36:27 +0100
From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
Davidlohr Bueso <davidlohr@...com>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
Darren Hart <dvhart@...ux.intel.com>,
Mike Galbraith <efault@....de>, Jeff Mahoney <jeffm@...e.com>,
"Norton, Scott J" <scott.norton@...com>, tom.vaden@...com,
"Chandramouleeswaran, Aswin" <aswin@...com>,
Waiman Long <Waiman.Long@...com>,
Jason Low <jason.low2@...com>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/5] futex: Avoid taking hb lock if nothing to wakeup
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 05:23:51PM +0100, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Nov 2013, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
> > On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 5:16 AM, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de> wrote:
> > >
> > > Now the question is why we queue the waiter _AFTER_ reading the user
> > > space value. The comment in the code is pretty non sensical:
> > >
> > > * On the other hand, we insert q and release the hash-bucket only
> > > * after testing *uaddr. This guarantees that futex_wait() will NOT
> > > * absorb a wakeup if *uaddr does not match the desired values
> > > * while the syscall executes.
> > >
> > > There is no reason why we cannot queue _BEFORE_ reading the user space
> > > value. We just have to dequeue in all the error handling cases, but
> > > for the fast path it does not matter at all.
> > >
> > > CPU 0 CPU 1
> > >
> > > val = *futex;
> > > futex_wait(futex, val);
> > >
> > > spin_lock(&hb->lock);
> > >
> > > plist_add(hb, self);
> > > smp_wmb();
> > >
> > > uval = *futex;
> > > *futex = newval;
> > > futex_wake();
> > >
> > > smp_rmb();
> > > if (plist_empty(hb))
> > > return;
> > > ...
> >
> > This would seem to be a nicer approach indeed, without needing the
> > extra atomics.
>
> I went through the issue with Peter and he noticed, that we need
> smp_mb() in both places. That's what we have right now with the
> spin_lock() and it is required as we need to guarantee that
>
> The waiter observes the change to the uaddr value after it added
> itself to the plist
>
> The waker observes plist not empty if the change to uaddr was made
> after the waiter checked the value.
>
>
> write(plist) | write(futex_uaddr)
> mb() | mb()
> read(futex_uaddr) | read(plist)
>
> The spin_lock mb() on the waiter side does not help here because it
> happpens before the write(plist) and not after it.
Ah, note that spin_lock() is only a smp_mb() on x86, in general its an
ACQUIRE barrier which is weaker than a full mb and will not suffice in
this case even it if were in the right place.
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