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Date:	Mon, 02 Dec 2013 10:55:06 -0700
From:	David Ahern <dsahern@...il.com>
To:	Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@...achi.com>
CC:	acme@...stprotocols.net, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>, namhyung@...nel.org,
	"yrl.pp-manager.tt@...achi.com" <yrl.pp-manager.tt@...achi.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] perf probe: Allow user to specify address within
 executable

On 12/2/13, 7:49 AM, David Ahern wrote:
> On 12/1/13, 11:15 PM, Masami Hiramatsu wrote:
>> (2013/12/02 9:07), David Ahern wrote:
>>> Allow user to specify an address within an executable. This is useful, for
>>> example, in probing local functions. If the function name begins with 0x
>>> then try to convert the supplied name to an address. If succuessful then
>>> treat the function name as the address within the executable to be probed.
>>
>> Hmm, IMHO, this kind of functionality is only good for debugging.
> 
> Why? perf-probe takes the function name, looks up the address in the
> executable, adds an offset and then pushes that address to the kernel.
> Why can't I have an option to jump straight to the desired address?
> 
> A few use cases that come to mind:
> 
> 1. Allows manual creation of return probes in kernels which do not have
> that support.
> 
> 2. probing static functions

D'oh. That is supposed to be local functions, not static functions.
Right now perf-probe does not allow probes in local functions of an
executable. Giving a specific address provides a mean to do that.

> 
> 3. probing versioned addresses in libc -- something the current syntax
> does not allow because '@' is used as a field separator:
> 
> $ nm /lib64/libc-2.14.90.so | grep pthread_cond_timedwait
> 00000000000fe6c0 t __pthread_cond_timedwait
> 000000000012d920 t __pthread_cond_timedwait_2_0
> 00000000000fe6c0 T pthread_cond_timedwait@@GLIBC_2.3.2
> 000000000012d920 T pthread_cond_timedwait@...BC_2.2.5
> 
> $ perf probe -x /lib64/libc-2.14.90.so -a
> 'cond_timewait=pthread_cond_timedwait'
> no symbols found in /lib64/libc-2.14.90.so, maybe install a debug package?
> Failed to load map.
>    Error: Failed to add events. (-22)
> 
> $ perf probe -x /lib64/libc-2.14.90.so -a
> 'cond_timewait=pthread_cond_timedwait@@GLIBC_2.3.2'
> Semantic error :SRC@SRC is not allowed.
> 
> 
> 4. A workaround for any other shortcomings in the interface that require
> patches to fix and backports to be done. backports which take time if
> even possible.
> 
>> In that case, you should use uprobe_events interface directly.
> 
> How do I do that within the context of perf?
> 
>>
>> I recommend you to try enabing dwarf support in user space.
>> Perf probe is a user-friendly interface of dynamic events.
> 
> I do have dwarf support enabled in perf. Are you referring to other
> components of userspace (like system libraries)?
> 
> David
> 

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