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Message-ID: <20131210143828.GB13909@redhat.com>
Date:	Tue, 10 Dec 2013 09:38:28 -0500
From:	Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@...hat.com>
To:	Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>
Cc:	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@...hat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Matthew Garrett <matthew.garrett@...ula.com>,
	Rob Landley <rob@...dley.net>,
	Eric Biederman <ebiederm@...ssion.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@...e.de>,
	"linux-doc@...r.kernel.org" <linux-doc@...r.kernel.org>,
	kexec@...ts.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] kexec: add sysctl to disable kexec

On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 09:35:40AM -0500, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 09, 2013 at 05:06:10PM -0800, Kees Cook wrote:
> > On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 4:34 PM, H. Peter Anvin <hpa@...or.com> wrote:
> > > On 12/09/2013 04:16 PM, Kees Cook wrote:
> > >> For general-purpose (i.e. distro) kernel builds it makes sense to build with
> > >> CONFIG_KEXEC to allow end users to choose what kind of things they want to do
> > >> with kexec. However, in the face of trying to lock down a system with such
> > >> a kernel, there needs to be a way to disable kexec (much like module loading
> > >> can be disabled). Without this, it is too easy for the root user to modify
> > >> kernel memory even when CONFIG_STRICT_DEVMEM and modules_disabled are set.
> > >>
> > >> Signed-off-by: Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>
> > >> Acked-by: Rik van Riel <riel@...hat.com>
> > >
> > > So the logic is to load a crashkernel and then lock down the machine
> > > before services, networking etc. are enabled?
> > 
> > Right, or to just turn it off at boot time if kexec will not be used at all.
> 
> kdump kernel is loaded with the help of kdump service. Different distro's
> might have different dependencies for that serivce. But recently in fedora
> we wait network to come up before starting that service. (So that nfs
> targets can be mounted and checked for valid dump destinations).
> 
> IOW, crash kernel is loaded quite late in the game (quite a few services
> have run and possibly networking is up too). To me, practically one will
> disable kdump also if you change state of this knob early.

Of course it also removes the possibility of re-loading crash kernel
after doing some changes to /etc/kdump.conf (like dump destination or
kernel command line).

I am wondering if it is sufficient to disable kexec jump back
functionality only while retaining kexec and kdump. That seems to be
easiest way to change kernel's data structures.

Thanks
Vivek
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