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Message-ID: <20131211020959.GA17970@bbox>
Date:	Wed, 11 Dec 2013 11:09:59 +0900
From:	Minchan Kim <minchan@...nel.org>
To:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>
Cc:	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-mm@...ck.org,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@...nel.dk>, Hugh Dickins <hughd@...gle.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@...hat.com>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad@...nok.org>,
	Luigi Semenzato <semenzato@...gle.com>,
	Seth Jennings <sjenning@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Nitin Gupta <ngupta@...are.org>, Bob Liu <bob.liu@...cle.com>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@...nel.org>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@...e.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 0/4] zram/zsmalloc promotion

Hello Greg,

On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 11:04:35AM +0900, Minchan Kim wrote:
> Zram is a simple pseudo block device which can keep data on
> in-memory with compressed[1].
> 
> It have been used for many embedded system for several years
> One of significant usecase is in-memory swap device.
> Because NAND which is very popular on most embedded device
> is weak for frequent write without good wear-level
> and slow I/O hurts system's responsiblity so zram is really
> good choice to use memory efficiently.
> 
> In previous trial, there was some argument[2] that zram has
> similar goal with zswap so let's merge zram's functionality
> into zswap via adding pseudo block device in zswap but I and
> some people(At least, Hugh and Rik) believe it's not a good idea.
> [2][3][4] and zswap might go writethrough model[5]. It makes
> clear difference zram and zswap.
> 
> Zram itself is simple/well-designed/good abstraciton so it has
> clear market(ex, Android, TV, ChromeOS, some Linux distro) which
> is never niche. :)
> 
> Another zram-blk's usecase is following as.
> The admin can use it as tmpfs so it could help small memory system.
> The tmpfs is never good solution for swapless embedded system.
> 
> Patch 1 adds new Kconfig for zram to use page table method instead
> of copy.
> 
> Patch 2 adds more comment for zsmalloc.
> 
> Patch 3 moves zsmalloc under mm.
> 
> Patch 4 moves zram from driver/staging to driver/blocks, finally.

Patch 1(suggested by Andrew Morton) and 2(Just comment to make review easy)
are prepartion for promotion so I hope it could be merged into your staging
regardless of allowing promotion at the moment.

Thanks.

-- 
Kind regards,
Minchan Kim
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