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Date:	Fri, 13 Dec 2013 09:57:59 -0800
From:	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@...el.com>
To:	Sarah Sharp <sarah.a.sharp@...ux.intel.com>
Cc:	Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>,
	Julius Werner <jwerner@...omium.org>,
	Vikas Sajjan <sajjan.linux@...il.com>,
	Vikas Sajjan <vikas.sajjan@...aro.org>,
	linux-samsung-soc <linux-samsung-soc@...r.kernel.org>,
	Kukjin Kim <kgene.kim@...sung.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"linux-usb@...r.kernel.org" <linux-usb@...r.kernel.org>,
	Vincent Palatin <vpalatin@...omium.org>,
	Lan Tianyu <tianyu.lan@...el.com>,
	Ksenia Ragiadakou <burzalodowa@...il.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
	Vivek Gautam <gautam.vivek@...sung.com>,
	Douglas Anderson <dianders@...omium.org>,
	Felipe Balbi <balbi@...com>, sunil joshi <joshi@...sung.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] USB: core: Add warm reset while reset-resuming SuperSpeed HUBs

On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Sarah Sharp
<sarah.a.sharp@...ux.intel.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 11:05:04AM -0500, Alan Stern wrote:
>> On Wed, 11 Dec 2013, Julius Werner wrote:
>>
>> > >> ...although, the spec says that it does not wait for the port resets
>> > >> to complete.  As far as I can see re-issuing a warm reset and waiting
>> > >> is the only way to guarantee the core times the recovery.  Presumably
>> > >> the portstatus debounce in hub_activate() mitigates this, but that
>> > >> 100ms is less than a full reset timeout.
>> >
>> > It's definitely not just a timing issue for us. I can't reproduce all
>> > the same cases as Vikas, but when I attach a USB analyzer to the ones
>> > I do see the host controller doesn't even start sending a reset.
>> >
>> > >>> The xHCI spec requires that when the xHCI host is reset, a USB reset is
>> > >>> driven down the USB 3.0 ports.  If hot reset fails, the port may migrate
>> > >>> to warm reset.  See table 32 in the xHCI spec, in the definition of
>> > >>> HCRST.  It sounds like this host doesn't drive a USB reset down USB 3.0
>> > >>> ports at all on host controller reset?
>> >
>> > Oh, interesting, I hadn't seen that yet. So I guess the spec itself is
>> > fine if it were followed to the letter.
>> >
>> > I did some more tests about this on my Exynos machine: when I put a
>> > device to autosuspend (U3) and manually poke the xHC reset bit, I do
>> > see an automatic warm reset on the analyzer and the ports manage to
>> > retrain to U0. But after a system suspend/resume which calls
>> > xhci_reset() in the process, there is no reset on the wire. I also
>> > noticed that it doesn't drive a reset (even after manual poking) when
>> > there is no device connected on the other end of the analyzer.
>> >
>> > So this might be our problem: maybe these host controllers (Synopsys
>> > DesignWare) issue the spec-mandated warm reset only on ports where
>> > they think there is a device attached. But after a system
>> > suspend/resume (where the whole IP block on the SoC was powered down),
>> > the host controller cannot know that there is still a device with an
>> > active power session attached, and therefore doesn't drive the reset
>> > on its own.
>
> Ok, that makes some sense.  I could see why host controllers wouldn't
> want to drive reset on an unconnected port.
>
>> > Even though this is a host controller bug, we still have to deal with
>> > it somehow. I guess we could move the code into xhci_plat_resume() and
>> > hide it behind a quirk to lessen the impact. But since reset_resume is
>> > not a common case for most host controllers, it's hard to say if this
>> > is DesignWare specific or a more widespread implementation mistake.
>>
>> I was going to suggest something along these lines too.  This seems to
>> be a bug in xHCI.  Therefore the fix belongs in xhci-hcd, not in the
>> hub driver.
>
> I agree.  Is there a chance that the Synopsys DesignWare will be a PCI
> device instead of a platform device?  If so, it would be better to put
> the code into xhci_resume instead of xhci_plat_resume.  That also allows
> you to only issue the warm reset when the register restore state command
> fails, after the xhci_reset call.
>
> Also, I assume that other systems with the Synopsys DesignWare IP will
> experience this issue?  I know of at least two other chipsets that will
> include that IP, and it would be good to find a way to trigger on the
> Synopsys IP, rather than off xHCI PCI vendor and device ID.  Otherwise
> we'll be adding PCI IDs to the xHCI driver quirks for many many kernels
> to come.
>
> I'm actually leaning towards enabling the check for warm reset broadly.
> It seems like it wouldn't hurt to issue a warm reset on the USB 3.0
> ports if they're in compliance, poll, or rx.detect.  So, let's enable
> this broadly in xhci_resume, mark the patch for stable, but ask for the
> backport to be delayed until 3.13.3 is out, to allow for more testing.
> If anyone complains of xHCI behavior changes, we'll change the code to
> add a quirk.

Is there a clean way to make this per-port rather than globally at
xhci_resume()?  I am looking to hook into this for port power recovery
as Tianyu's testing encountered "warm reset required" conditions at
runtime_resume.  I'm still on the hunt for a solid reproducer, but it
indicates this is a more general quirk with power session recovery.
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