linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 2/4] Input: introduce ABS

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Message-Id: <20131218152731.0222ae3b3807601b7756c937@studenti.unina.it>
Date:	Wed, 18 Dec 2013 15:27:31 +0100
From:	Antonio Ospite <ospite@...denti.unina.it>
To:	David Herrmann <dh.herrmann@...il.com>
Cc:	linux-input@...r.kernel.org,
	Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@...il.com>,
	Jiri Kosina <jkosina@...e.cz>,
	Benjamin Tissoires <benjamin.tissoires@...il.com>,
	Peter Hutterer <peter.hutterer@...-t.net>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, input-tools@...ts.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] Input: introduce ABS_MAX2/CNT2 and friends

Hi David,

thanks for the update.

On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 16:48:52 +0100
David Herrmann <dh.herrmann@...il.com> wrote:

> As we painfully noticed during the 3.12 merge-window our
> EVIOCGABS/EVIOCSABS API is limited to ABS_MAX<=0x3f. We tried several
> hacks to work around it but if we ever decide to increase ABS_MAX, the
> EVIOCSABS ioctl ABI might overflow into the next byte causing horrible
> misinterpretations in the kernel that we cannot catch.
> 
> Therefore, we decided to go with ABS_MAX2/CNT2 and introduce two new
> ioctls to get/set abs-params. They no longer encode the ABS code in the
> ioctl number and thus allow up to 4 billion ABS codes.
>

Just a question: did you consider the possibility of not exposing _MAX2
and _CNT2 in a header file at all but let those be queried? Or maybe
this is not necessary if we assume that userspace programs are supposed
to know what is the MAX _they_ support?

BTW I was thinking for instance to a program compiled with ABS_MAX2 =
0x4f but working with future kernels with an increased value, it still
won't be able to support values greater than 0x4f.

> The new API also allows to query multiple ABS values with one call. To
> allow EVIOCSABS2(code = 0, cnt = ABS_CNT2) we need to silently ignore
> writes to ABS_MT_SLOT. Furthermore, for better compatibility with
> newer user-space, we ignore writes to unknown codes. Hence, if we ever
> increase ABS_MAX2, new user-space will work with code=0,cnt=ABS_CNT2 just
> fine even on old kernels.
>

To my inexperienced eye it's not obvious why ABS_MT_SLOT must be handled
as a special case. Maybe because I don't even know what
code=0,cnt=ABS_CNT2 is used for.

> Note that we also need to increase EV_VERSION so user-space can reliably
> know whether ABS2 is supported. Unfortunately, we return EINVAL instead of
> ENOSYS for unknown evdev ioctls so it's nearly impossible to catch
> reliably without EVIOCGVERSION.
>

I'll check how to use that in evtest.

Just one more comment below.

> Signed-off-by: David Herrmann <dh.herrmann@...il.com>
> ---
>  drivers/hid/hid-debug.c                  |  2 +-
>  drivers/hid/hid-input.c                  |  2 +-
>  drivers/input/evdev.c                    | 95 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
>  drivers/input/input.c                    | 14 ++---
>  drivers/input/keyboard/goldfish_events.c |  6 +-
>  drivers/input/keyboard/hil_kbd.c         |  2 +-
>  drivers/input/misc/uinput.c              |  6 +-
>  include/linux/hid.h                      |  2 +-
>  include/linux/input.h                    |  6 +-
>  include/uapi/linux/input.h               | 42 +++++++++++++-
>  include/uapi/linux/uinput.h              |  2 +-
>  11 files changed, 155 insertions(+), 24 deletions(-)
> 

[...]
> diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/input.h b/include/uapi/linux/input.h
> index bd24470..1856461 100644
> --- a/include/uapi/linux/input.h
> +++ b/include/uapi/linux/input.h
[...]
>  
>  /*
> + * Due to API restrictions the legacy evdev API only supports ABS values up to
> + * ABS_MAX/CNT. Use the extended *ABS2 ioctls to operate on any ABS values in
> + * between ABS_MAX and ABS_MAX2.
> + */
> +#define ABS_MAX2		0x3f
> +#define ABS_CNT2		(ABS_MAX2+1)
> +

Maybe it's just my English, but when you say "between ABS_MAX and
ABS_MAX2" it sounds like the old protocol still _must_ be used for
values <= ABS_MAX.

IIUC this is true "only" for compatibility with older kernels right?
If a program decides to support only newer kernels it can check the
protocol version and use only the new ioctls, right?

Maybe you can be more explicit about that in the comment?

Thanks,
   Antonio
-- 
Antonio Ospite
http://ao2.it

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
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