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Message-ID: <20131220115854.GA11295@suse.de>
Date:	Fri, 20 Dec 2013 12:00:11 +0000
From:	Mel Gorman <mgorman@...e.de>
To:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>
Cc:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Alex Shi <alex.shi@...aro.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Fengguang Wu <fengguang.wu@...el.com>,
	H Peter Anvin <hpa@...or.com>, Linux-X86 <x86@...nel.org>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] Fix ebizzy performance regression due to X86 TLB
 range flush v2

On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 12:18:18PM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> 
> * Mel Gorman <mgorman@...e.de> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 05:49:25PM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > > 
> > > * Mel Gorman <mgorman@...e.de> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > [...]
> > > > 
> > > > Because we lack data on TLB range flush distributions I think we 
> > > > should still go with the conservative choice for the TLB flush 
> > > > shift. The worst case is really bad here and it's painfully obvious 
> > > > on ebizzy.
> > > 
> > > So I'm obviously much in favor of this - I'd in fact suggest 
> > > making the conservative choice on _all_ CPU models that have 
> > > aggressive TLB range values right now, because frankly the testing 
> > > used to pick those values does not look all that convincing to me.
> > 
> > I think the choices there are already reasonably conservative. I'd 
> > be reluctant to support merging a patch that made a choice on all 
> > CPU models without having access to the machines to run tests on. I 
> > don't see the Intel people volunteering to do the necessary testing.
> 
> So based on this thread I lost confidence in test results on all CPU 
> models but the one you tested.
> 
> I see two workable options right now:
> 
>  - We turn the feature off on all other CPU models, until someone
>    measures and tunes them reliably.
> 

That would mean setting tlb_flushall_shift to -1. I think it's overkill
but it's not really my call.

HPA?

> or
> 
>  - We make all tunings that are more aggressive than yours to match
>    yours. In the future people can measure and argue for more
>    aggressive tunings.
> 

I'm missing something obvious because switching the default to 2 will use
individual page flushes more aggressively which I do not think was your
intent. The basic check is

	if (tlb_flushall_shift == -1)
		flush all

	act_entries = tlb_entries >> tlb_flushall_shift;
	nr_base_pages = range to flush
	if (nr_base_pages > act_entries)
		flush all
	else
		flush individual pages

Full mm flush is the "safe" bet

tlb_flushall_shift == -1	Always use flush all
tlb_flushall_shift == 1		Aggressively use individual flushes
tlb_flushall_shift == 6		Conservatively use individual flushes

IvyBridge was too aggressive using individual flushes and my patch makes
it less aggressive.

Intel's code for this currently looks like

        switch ((c->x86 << 8) + c->x86_model) {
        case 0x60f: /* original 65 nm celeron/pentium/core2/xeon, "Merom"/"Conroe" */
        case 0x616: /* single-core 65 nm celeron/core2solo "Merom-L"/"Conroe-L" */
        case 0x617: /* current 45 nm celeron/core2/xeon "Penryn"/"Wolfdale" */
        case 0x61d: /* six-core 45 nm xeon "Dunnington" */
                tlb_flushall_shift = -1;
                break;
        case 0x61a: /* 45 nm nehalem, "Bloomfield" */
        case 0x61e: /* 45 nm nehalem, "Lynnfield" */
        case 0x625: /* 32 nm nehalem, "Clarkdale" */
        case 0x62c: /* 32 nm nehalem, "Gulftown" */
        case 0x62e: /* 45 nm nehalem-ex, "Beckton" */
        case 0x62f: /* 32 nm Xeon E7 */
                tlb_flushall_shift = 6;
                break;
        case 0x62a: /* SandyBridge */
        case 0x62d: /* SandyBridge, "Romely-EP" */
                tlb_flushall_shift = 5;
                break;
        case 0x63a: /* Ivybridge */
                tlb_flushall_shift = 2;
                break;
        default:
                tlb_flushall_shift = 6;
        }

That default shift of "6" is already conservative which is why I don't
think we need to change anything there. AMD is slightly more aggressive
in their choices but not enough to panic.

-- 
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs
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