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Message-ID: <52CB8118.30601@zytor.com>
Date:	Mon, 06 Jan 2014 20:22:48 -0800
From:	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>
To:	Josh Boyer <jwboyer@...oraproject.org>
CC:	Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@...hat.com>, Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>,
	Torsten Duwe <duwe@....de>,
	Matthew Garrett <mjg59@...f.ucam.org>,
	Greg KH <greg@...ah.com>, LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	kexec <kexec@...ts.infradead.org>,
	Peter Jones <pjones@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/6] kexec: A new system call, kexec_file_load, for in
 kernel kexec

On 01/06/2014 01:33 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 3:56 PM, H. Peter Anvin <hpa@...or.com> wrote:
>> On 01/02/2014 12:39 PM, Vivek Goyal wrote:
>>>
>>> If secureboot is enabled, it enforces module signature verification. I
>>> think similar will happen for kexec too. How would kernel know that on
>>> a secureboot platform fd original verification will happen and it is
>>> sufficient.
>>>
>>> I personally want to support bzImage as well (apart from ELF) because
>>> distributions has been shipping bzImage for a long time and I don't
>>> want to enforce a change there because of secureboot. It is not necessary.
>>> Right now I am thinking more about storing detached bzImage signatures
>>> and passing those signatures to kexec system call.
>>>
>>
>> Since the secureboot scenario probably means people will be signing
>> those kernels, and those kernels are going to be EFI images, that in
>> order to have "one kernel, one signature" there will be a desire to
>> support signed PE images.  Yes, PE is ugly but it shouldn't be too bad.
>>  However, it is probably one of those things that can be dealt with one
>> bit at a time.
> 
> David Howells posted patches to support signed PE binaries early last
> year.  They were rejected rather quickly.
> 
> https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/2/21/196
> 
> That was for loading keys via PE binaries, but the parser is needed
> either way.  Unless I'm misunderstanding what you're suggesting?
> 

I know.  I think the kexec is a better motivation, though.

	-hpa


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