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Message-ID: <20140108124534.GD31570@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>
Date:	Wed, 8 Jan 2014 13:45:34 +0100
From:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
To:	Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@....com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC] sched: CPU topology try

On Wed, Jan 08, 2014 at 12:35:34PM +0000, Morten Rasmussen wrote:
> > Currently we detect overload by sg.nr_running >= sg.capacity, which can
> > be very misleading because while a cpu might have a task running 'now'
> > it might be 99% idle.
> > 
> > At which point I argued we should change the capacity thing anyhow. Ever
> > since the runnable_avg patch set I've been arguing to change that into
> > an actual utilization test.
> > 
> > So I think that if we measure overload by something like >95% utilization
> > on the entire group the load scaling again makes perfect sense.
> 
> I agree that it make more sense to change the overload test to be based
> on some tracked load. How about the non-overloaded case? Load balancing
> would have to be based on unweighted task loads in that case?

Yeah, until we're overloaded our goal is to minimize idle time.
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