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Message-ID: <20140108161338.GA10434@redhat.com>
Date:	Wed, 8 Jan 2014 17:13:38 +0100
From:	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>
To:	Mel Gorman <mgorman@...e.de>
Cc:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@...hat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Dave Jones <davej@...hat.com>,
	Darren Hart <dvhart@...ux.intel.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@...ibm.com>,
	Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@...ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/1] mm: fix the theoretical compound_lock() vs
	prep_new_page() race

On 01/08, Mel Gorman wrote:
>
> On Sat, Jan 04, 2014 at 05:43:47PM +0100, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> >
> > 	get/put_page(thp_tail) paths do get_page_unless_zero(page_head) +
> > 	compound_lock(). In theory this page_head can be already freed and
> > 	reallocated as alloc_pages(__GFP_COMP, smaller_order). In this case
> > 	get_page_unless_zero() can succeed right after set_page_refcounted(),
> > 	and compound_lock() can race with the non-atomic __SetPageHead() in
> > 	prep_compound_page().
> >
> This patch is putting a write barrier in the page allocator fast path and
> that is going to be a leading cause of Sad Face. We already have seen
> large regressions before when write barriers were introduced to the page
> allocator paths for cpusets.  Sticking it under CONFIG_TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE
> does not really address the issue.

As you already mentioned in another email, smp_wmb() is mostly nop. On
x86_64 at least. Although perhaps it would be nice to have

	static inline void atomic_store_release(atomic_t *v, int i)
	{
		smp_store_release(&v->counter, i);
	}

> > Yes, but thp can access this page_head via stale pointer, tail->first_page,
> > if it races with split_huge_page_refcount().
>
> To justify the introduction of a performance regression we need to be 100%
> sure this race actually exists

See below. But let me remind that I never looked at this code before,
I can be easily wrong.

> and not just theoretical.

It is theoretical anyway, I guess.

> For futex, the THP page (and the tail) must have been discovered via
> the page tables in which case the page tables are temporarily preventing
> the page being freed to the allocator.

Yes. But, for example, get_futex_key() does

	if (unlikely(PageTail(page))) {
		put_page(page);

why this put_page() can't race with _split? If nothing else, another thread
can unmap the part of this vma.

> > For example, __get_page_tail() roughly does:
> >
> > 	// PageTail(page) was already checked
> >
> > 	page_head = page->first_page;
> >
> > 	/* WINDOW */
> >
> > 	get_page_unless_zero(page_head);
> >
> > 	compound_lock(page_head);
> >
> > 	recheck PageTail(page) to ensure page_head is still valid
> >
> > However, in the WINDOW above, split_huge_page() can split this huge page.
> > After that its head can be freed and reallocated. Of course, I don't think
> > it is possible to hit this race in practice, but still this looks wrong.
> >
>
> I can't think of a reason why we would actually hit that race in practice

Agreed, the window is tiny, unlikely this possible.

> I do not think we
> should stick a write barrier into the page allocator fast path.

OK, I won't argue, I leave this to you and Andrea.


But I still think this code needs other cleanups/simplifications. In
particular get_futex_key()->__get_user_pages_fast() should die imho.

Oleg.

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