linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH] SELinux: Fix possible NULL pointer dereference in selinux_inode

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Date:	Thu, 09 Jan 2014 17:45:23 -0500
From:	Eric Paris <eparis@...hat.com>
To:	Al Viro <viro@...IV.linux.org.uk>
Cc:	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Stephen Smalley <sds@...ho.nsa.gov>,
	James Morris <james.l.morris@...cle.com>,
	Paul Moore <paul@...l-moore.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	stable <stable@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] SELinux: Fix possible NULL pointer dereference in
 selinux_inode_permission()

On Thu, 2014-01-09 at 22:13 +0000, Al Viro wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 10:31:55AM -0500, Eric Paris wrote:
> > Didn't Al find this/something very similar.  I really hate this
> > solution.  Why should every LSM try to understand the intimate
> > lifetime rules of the parent subsystems?  The real problem is that
> > inode_free_security() is being called while the inode is still in use.
> >  While I agree with the assessment, I disagree with the solution.  Let
> > me try to find where Al and Christoph talked about this....
> 
> Because LSM has stuck its fingers into the guts of those filesystems,
> obviously.
> 
> Just RCU-delay freeing the damn thing and treat NULL ->i_security in
> ->permission() (which can happen only with MAY_NOT_BLOCK in mask) as
> "return -ECHILD and let the caller deal with that".
> 
> Modifying every ->destroy_inode() is obviously wrong - there's a lot more
> filesystems than LSM buggers in the tree.

I'll do it if I've got no other choice.  But it seems crazy that the LSM
is guessing that kfree_rcu() is the right answer and will be the right
answer forever.  But clearly even ease inode lifetime rules can't be
counted on. fa0d7e3de6d6fc5004ad9dea0dd6b286af8f03e9 broke what was
already a perfectly sane/true/reasonable assumption about inode
lifetimes.  We put the 'free the security blob' with the 'free the
inode' call.  The VFS moved the 'free the inode' call.  Are they going
to do it again?  Will they realize that the LSM now has such intricate
object lifetime knowledge built in?

I really think the LSM function needs to, somehow, be synchronous.  I
can expose a generic struct i_security with an rcu_head as the only
member which all LSMs must implement as the first member of their blob.
The VFS can do a call_rcu() on that blob...

Like I said, I can do it all in security/ but it's just BEGGING for more
of this in the future...

-Eric

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