linux-kernel - Re: [RFC PATCH] mm: thp: Add per-mm

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Date:	Fri, 10 Jan 2014 23:10:10 +0100
From:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
To:	Alex Thorlton <athorlton@....com>
Cc:	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@...temov.name>, linux-mm@...ck.org,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@...ux.intel.com>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@...nel.crashing.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@...hat.com>,
	Naoya Horiguchi <n-horiguchi@...jp.nec.com>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>,
	Al Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@...hat.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Mel Gorman <mgorman@...e.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] mm: thp: Add per-mm_struct flag to control THP

On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 04:01:55PM -0600, Alex Thorlton wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 10:23:10PM +0200, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> > Do you know what cause the difference? I prefer to fix THP instead of
> > adding new knob to disable it.
> 
> The issue is that when you touch 1 byte of an untouched, contiguous 2MB
> chunk, a THP will be handed out, and the THP will be stuck on whatever
> node the chunk was originally referenced from.  If many remote nodes
> need to do work on that same chunk, they'll be making remote accesses.
> With THP disabled, 4K pages can be handed out to separate nodes as
> they're needed, greatly reducing the amount of remote accesses to
> memory.  I give a bit better description here:
> 
> https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/8/27/397
> 
> I had been looking into better ways to handle this issues, but after
> spinning through a few other ideas:
> 
> - Per cpuset flag to control THP:
> https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/6/10/331
> 
> - Threshold to determine when to hand out THPs:
> https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/12/12/394
> 
> We've arrived back here.  Andrea seemed to think that this is an
> acceptable approach to solve the problem, at least as a starting point:
> 
> https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/12/17/397
> 
> I agree that we should, ideally, come up with a way to appropriately
> handle this problem in the kernel, but as of right now, it appears that
> that might be a rather large undertaking.

We already have the information to determine if a page is shared across
nodes, Mel even had some prototype code to do splits under those
conditions.
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