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Message-ID: <m3wqhw4rv5.fsf@redhat.com>
Date:	Sun, 19 Jan 2014 00:39:42 -0200
From:	Sergio Durigan Junior <sergiodj@...hat.com>
To:	Roland McGrath <roland@...k.frob.com>
Cc:	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Denys Vlasenko <dvlasenk@...hat.com>,
	Pedro Alves <palves@...hat.com>,
	Tom Tromey <tromey@...hat.com>,
	Jan Kratochvil <jan.kratochvil@...hat.com>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC/PATCH] Implement new PTRACE_EVENT_SYSCALL_{ENTER,EXIT}

On Thursday, January 09 2014, Roland McGrath wrote:

>> I won't argue, but it is not clear to me if this is really useful,
>> given that the debugger can read the regs.
>
> I do see the utility of having a consistent machine-independent way to get
> the syscall number from userspace.  But note that this could be probably
> accomplished with just a uapi header change, providing an inline or macro
> to extract the syscall number from the regset data.  (It was once the case
> that there were some machines where the syscall number is not in any
> register and has to be extracted by decoding the instruction.  I'm not sure
> if that is still an issue anywhere.)
>
> Also note that adding a separate copy of the syscall number introduces a
> new wrinkle into the interface.  This might be considered to be good, bad,
> or indifferent, but I think it should at least be considered explicitly.
> That is, at the entry stop the syscall number (when it's in a register) can
> be changed via ptrace.  So if the number is delivered via ptrace_message,
> that's a separate copy of the original number that does not reflect any
> changes made via ptrace--so it reflects what userland asked for, as opposed
> to what the kernel actually acted on.
>
> I don't have a particular opinion about which way to go with that.
> I just wanted all the issues (I'm aware of) to be considered.

Hm, thanks for your insights.

I don't really have a strong opinion here.  I could say that I think
ptrace should report the syscall that was originally called (and not the
one that will effectively be called), but maybe that would sound like I
am defending what I current have, heh...

Anyway, one question that I'm having now is what currently happens.
Guess I will take a look.

Having said that, if adding the syscall number information to
ptrace_message is too much controversial, I guess I will abandon this
idea for now and just implement the notifications.

-- 
Sergio
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