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Date:	Mon, 20 Jan 2014 14:08:32 +0000
From:	"Shevchenko, Andriy" <andriy.shevchenko@...el.com>
To:	"Koul, Vinod" <vinod.koul@...el.com>
CC:	Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@...ux.jf.intel.com>,
	"Chew, Chiau Ee" <chiau.ee.chew@...el.com>,
	Viresh Kumar <viresh.linux@...il.com>,
	"Williams, Dan J" <dan.j.williams@...el.com>,
	"dmaengine@...r.kernel.org" <dmaengine@...r.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] dma: dw: Add suspend and resume handling for PCI mode
 DW_DMAC.

On Mon, 2014-01-20 at 17:37 +0530, Vinod Koul wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 06:17:56PM +0530, Shevchenko, Andriy wrote:
> > On Mon, 2014-01-20 at 14:55 +0530, Vinod Koul wrote:
> > > On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 12:51:29PM +0200, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 21:19 +0530, Vinod Koul wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 01:51:47PM +0530, Chew, Chiau Ee wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > > As mentioned by Andy, we are using *_noirq  verion of suspend/resume PM
> > > > > > callback whereby the callbacks would be executed after IRQ handlers have been
> > > > > > disabled. If using SET_SYSTEM_SLEEP_PM_OPS, it would be the normal
> > > > > > suspend/resume PM callback. Looking at the Desginware DMAC platform code
> > > > > > (drivers/dma/dw/platform.c), it is using the *_noirq suspend/resume PM
> > > > > > callback. Is it advisable to use the normal suspend/resume PM callback instead
> > > > > > of *_noirq suspend/PM callback? 
> > > > > 
> > > > > i dont see a reason why we need the noirq versions
> > > > 
> > > > Okay. I imagine the following use case.
> > > > 
> > > > For example we have compiled in DMA driver (dw_dmac) along with, for
> > > > example, SPI driver.
> > > > 
> > > > System was scheduled to go sleep.
> > > > 
> > > > An order of calling IIUC might be DMA first, then SPI (since they are
> > > > not in parent / child relations).
> > > > 
> > > > What was happened when SPI would like to do a DMA transfer and DMA is
> > > > going to sleep? I'm trying to understand if this is a case.
> > > In that case how does no irq version help us?
> > 
> > It guarantees that we have no user of DMA anymore, since there is no
> > interrupt going on.
> well how is that. It will gaurantee that there wont be interrupt. User can still
> submit a transaction or another transaction will be in progress...

This is how system suspend callback tree is called.

First it calls .suspend() for all devices, then .suspend_late(),
then .suspend_noirq().

There is set of assumptions per each callback round. After .suspend()
the device must be quiescent.

But...

> > > For these cases, I have been using suspend_late. Since the dmaengine driver is
> > > providing service to other clients (SPI), it needs to esnure that it suspends
> > > after SPI using suspend_late and resume using resume_early. That way dma is
> > > availble whenever the client is active
> > 
> > suspend_late is working in context that interrupt handler may be
> > invoked. Thus, to have DMA driver be properly shut down we have to
> > wait / terminate possible ongoing transfer.
> Well client is already suspended via .suspend. So where is the transaction :)

...as I already wrote before we have no parent-child relationship
between DMA and, for example, SPI. That means we may possible have the
case when SPI's .suspend() will be called later than DMA's one.

> > It seems for me all DMA drivers that are using
> > system .suspend()/.resume() are potentially buggy.
> Yup!

So, we have to decide what to do with them. .suspend_late() still seems
for me not the best approach. *Or* we have to check for ongoing
transaction and do something with it. *Or* just shut down the device and
rely on DMA transaction initiator that it handles the terminated
transaction properly.

What is you opinion?


-- 
Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@...el.com>
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