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Message-ID: <20140120231457.GZ17314@sirena.org.uk>
Date:	Mon, 20 Jan 2014 23:14:57 +0000
From:	Mark Brown <broonie@...nel.org>
To:	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc:	Tushar Behera <tushar.behera@...aro.org>,
	Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@....linux.org.uk>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	linux-serial <linux-serial@...r.kernel.org>,
	linux-samsung-soc <linux-samsung-soc@...r.kernel.org>,
	jslaby <jslaby@...e.cz>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
	Ben Dooks <ben.dooks@...ethink.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] serial: samsung: Move uart_register_driver call to
 device probe

On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 09:43:05PM +0000, Alan Cox wrote:

> The dynamic major/minor is the right patch. If the userspace breaks then
> the userspace was broken, but I see no evidence in the discussion that
> the userspace broke.

The userspace breakage is that if someone has a static /dev that doesn't
handle any dynamic devices then renumbering the device will cause that
static /dev to stop matching the kernel.

> Thats what the list says. Samsung should have followed the rules, they
> didn't so they get to pick up the pieces. The Amba driver wants moving as
> well. It's easy. If you want something to be ABI then make sure you get
> it upstream first, if not you get to own all the pain down the line.

This stuff is all upstream already, a quick check suggests both drivers
predate git - it's been noticed because the ARM multiplatform work has
caused people to try booting kernels with both built in.

> If the hardware isn't present then the driver shouldn't even register
> with the tty layer in the first place so it doesn't make any resource
> differeneces either for properly written code.

Right, that's not the idiom that has been followed by any of serial
drivers though so needs fixing too.

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