linux-kernel - Re: [RFC] de-asmify the x86-64 system call slowpath

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Message-ID: <20140127074208.GB10323@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
Date:	Mon, 27 Jan 2014 07:42:09 +0000
From:	Al Viro <viro@...IV.linux.org.uk>
To:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc:	Peter Anvin <hpa@...or.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@...nel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] de-asmify the x86-64 system call slowpath

On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 08:32:09PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Al Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> >
> > Umm...  Can't uprobe_notify_resume() modify regs as well?
> 
> Probably.
> 
> .. and on the other hand, we should actually be able to use 'sysret'
> for signal handling on x86-64, because while sysret destroys %rcx and
> doesn't allow for returning to odd modes, for calling a signal handler
> I don't think we really care..

I'm afraid we might:

 * When user can change the frames always force IRET. That is because
 * it deals with uncanonical addresses better. SYSRET has trouble
 * with them due to bugs in both AMD and Intel CPUs.

IIRC, that was about SYSRET with something unpleasant left in RCX, which
comes from regs->ip, which is set to sa_handler by __setup_rt_frame().
And we do not normalize or validate that - not in __setup_rt_frame() and
not at sigaction(2) time.  Something about GPF triggered and buggering
attacker-chosen memory area?  I don't remember details, but IIRC the
conclusion had been "just don't go there"...

Note that we can manipulate regs->ip and regs->sp, regardless of validation
at sigaction(2) or __setup_rt_frame() - just have the sucker ptraced, send
it a signal and it'll stop on delivery.  Then tracer can use ptrace to modify
registers and issue PTRACE_CONT with zero signal.  Voila - regs->[is]p
set to arbitrary values, no signal handlers triggered...
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