linux-kernel - Re: [GIT PULL] x86/kaslr for v3.14

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Message-ID: <52E76997.40303@nod.at>
Date:	Tue, 28 Jan 2014 09:25:59 +0100
From:	Richard Weinberger <richard@....at>
To:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>, Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>
CC:	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...ux.intel.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Cong Ding <dinggnu@...il.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Mathias Krause <minipli@...glemail.com>,
	Michael Davidson <md@...gle.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Wei Yongjun <yongjun_wei@...ndmicro.com.cn>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] x86/kaslr for v3.14

Am 28.01.2014 07:28, schrieb Ingo Molnar:
> 
> * Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org> wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Richard Weinberger <richard@....at> wrote:
>>> Am 27.01.2014 18:05, schrieb Kees Cook:
>>>> I would argue that decoding a non-panic oops on a running system is
>>>> entirely possible as-is, since the offset can be found from
>>>> /proc/kallsyms as root. It was the dead system that needed the offset
>>>> exported: via text in the panic, or via an ELF note in a core.
>>>
>>> The problem is that you have to pickup information from two sources.
>>> As a kernel developer users/customers often show you a backtrace (oops or panic)
>>> and want you do find the problem.
>>> They barley manage it copy&paste the topmost full trace from dmesg or /var/log/messages.
>>> If I have to ask them a bit later to tell me the offset from /proc/kallsyms or something else
>>> I'm lost. Mostly because they have already rebooted the box...
>>
>> As long as I can turn it off, I'd be happy. :)
>> /proc/sys/kernel/kaslr_in_oops or something?

Would be nice to have! :)

> Yeah, as long as it decodes by default.

Yep.
I like Ingo's idea (capital letters as indicators).
Are we all fine with that?

Thanks,
//richard
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