linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v3 1/2] qspinlock: Introducing a 4-byte queue spinlock implementation

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Date:	31 Jan 2014 14:14:39 -0500
From:	"George Spelvin" <linux@...izon.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/2] qspinlock: Introducing a 4-byte queue spinlock implementation

> Yes, we can do something like that. However I think put_qnode() needs to 
> use atomic dec as well. As a result, we will need 2 additional atomic 
> operations per slowpath invocation. The code may look simpler, but I 
> don't think it will be faster than what I am currently doing as the 
> cases where the used flag is set will be relatively rare.

The increment does *not* have to be atomic.

First of all, note that the only reader that matters is a local interrupt;
other processors never access the variable at all, so what they see
is irrelevant.

"Okay, so I use a non-atomic RMW instruction; what about non-x86
processors without op-to-memory?"

Well, they're okay, too.  The only requriement is that the write to
qna->cnt must be visible to the local processor (barrier()) before the
qna->nodes[] slot is used.

Remember, a local interrupt may use a slot temporarily, but will always
return qna->cnt to its original value before returning.  So there's
nothing wrong with

- Load qna->cnt to register
- Increment register
- Store register to qna->cnt

Because an interrupt, although it may temporarily modify qna->cnt, will
restore it before returning so this code will never see any modification.

Just like using the stack below the %rsp, the only requirement is to
ensure that the qna->cnt increment is visble *to the local processor's
interrupt handler* before actually using the slot.

The effect of the interrupt handler is that it may corrupt, at any
time and without warning, any slot not marked in use via qna->cnt.
But that's not a difficult thing to deal with, and does *not* require
atomic operations.
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