linux-kernel - Re: Honestly, fork systemd

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Message-ID: <1392580288.79173.YahooMailBasic@web141706.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Date:	Sun, 16 Feb 2014 11:51:28 -0800 (PST)
From:	ChaosEsque Team <chaosesqueteam@...oo.com>
To:	redlynx@...h.com, Aigars Mahinovs <aigarius@...ian.org>
Cc:	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	"debian-devel@...ts.debian.org" <debian-devel@...ts.debian.org>,
	debian-project@...ts.debian.org
Subject: Re: Honestly, fork systemd

As far as I've heard only a few people have actually voiced support for that beachfront property.
As few as 20 total.

Debian has always been the stable distro.
Beachfront is not the right way to go for default debian.
Nor is some castle on a cliff over the beachfront area.

It is not the correct decision.

--------------------------------------------
On Sun, 2/16/14, Aigars Mahinovs <aigarius@...ian.org> wrote:

 Subject: Re: Honestly, fork systemd
 To: redlynx@...h.com
 Cc: linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, "debian-devel@...ts.debian.org" <debian-devel@...ts.debian.org>, debian-project@...ts.debian.org, "ChaosEsque Team" <chaosesqueteam@...oo.com>
 Date: Sunday, February 16, 2014, 5:21 AM

 On 16 February 2014 14:34, 
 <redlynx@...h.com>
 wrote:
 > The alternative is allready here. It's called SysV.
 Nothing needs to be
 > done.
 > It is a rock on which to build.
 > Not a shifting sands.

 If you insist on alegories, then the choice now stands
 between
 building on a solitary rock in the middle of a stormy sea or
 building
 on the sandy beaches of a popular costal town. Often it is
 easier to
 put in the work to drive down piles trought the sand down to
 bedrock
 and injecting some concrete where needed to form your own
 rock
 foundation rather than transport everything to that rocky
 island. And
 the end result for the users is a much more useful home.

 The choice in Debian has been made - we like the beachfront
 property.
 Help us make the best of it - investigate where the sand is
 weakest
 and inject concrete there, find the bedrock and drive some
 piles to
 it, add liquifaction protection where that is needed, be
 constructive.
 The house will be build here. If you can help its
 construction and
 help it be stronger - please help. If you are going to
 continue
 advocating not building here - please don't. That one is
 settled.

 I personally dislike systemd on a few technical and few
 social
 grounds, but I respect the decision of Debian TC and will do
 what I
 can to make systemd in Debian be the bast it can be and make
 Debian
 with systemd the strongest system it can be. I hope others
 will do the
 same.

 -- 
 Best regards,
     Aigars Mahinovs       
 mailto:aigarius@...ian.org

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