Date:	Tue, 18 Feb 2014 09:51:30 +0900
From:	Magnus Damm <magnus.damm@...il.com>
To:	Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@...asonboard.com>
Cc:	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>,
	Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart+renesas@...asonboard.com>,
	"linux-sh@...r.kernel.org" <linux-sh@...r.kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@...aro.org>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 23/27] clocksource: sh_cmt: Add DT support

Hi Laurent,

On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 6:43 AM, Laurent Pinchart
<laurent.pinchart@...asonboard.com> wrote:
> Hi Magnus,
>
> On Monday 17 February 2014 10:48:55 Magnus Damm wrote:
>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
>> > On Saturday 15 February 2014 02:22:00 Magnus Damm wrote:
>> >> On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 1:12 AM, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
>> >> > On Saturday 15 February 2014 01:01:30 Magnus Damm wrote:
>> >> >> On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 12:53 AM, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
>> >> >> > On Friday 14 February 2014 10:58:22 Mark Rutland wrote:
>> >> >> >> On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 01:00:01AM +0000, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
>> >> >> >> > +Channels Optional Properties:
>> >> >> >> > +
>> >> >> >> > +  - clock-source-rating: rating of the timer as a clock source
>> >> >> >> > device.
>> >> >> >> > +  - clock-event-rating: rating of the timer as a clock event
>> >> >> >> > device.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> This feels like a leak of Linux internals. Why do you need this?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > You're right, it is. The clock source and clock event ratings are
>> >> >> > currently configured through platform data, I'll need to find a way
>> >> >> > to compute them in the driver instead.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> That would be very good!
>> >> >
>> >> > Any pointer would be appreciated :-) How did you compute the various
>> >> > ratings used in platform data all over the place ?
>> >>
>> >> Historically we used the rating to select between CMT and TMU. For
>> >> clock sources I suppose you also have the jiffy rating to consider.
>> >> And for the SMP parts we have ARM IP for TWD and arch timers that have
>> >> their ratings too. So you need to check all the timers on a particular
>> >> system and consider what you want to have operating by default. The
>> >> ARM IP timers should be preferred if available. For clock sources the
>> >> rule is probably the higher resolution the better.
>> >>
>> >> >> > There's still one piece of Linux-specific data I need though, as I
>> >> >> > need to specify for each channel whether to use it as a clock source
>> >> >> > device, a clock event device, both of them or none. That's
>> >> >> > configuration information that needs to be provided somehow.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I think you can decide clock source or clock event assignment based on
>> >> >> number of channels available. If you have only a single channel then
>> >> >> both clock event and clock source need to be supported. Otherwise use
>> >> >> one channel for clock source and the rest for clock events.
>> >> >
>> >> > That won't match the current situation. Look at CMT0 in r8a7790 for
>> >> > instance. There's two hardware channels available, and we only use the
>> >> > first one, for clock events only.
>> >>
>> >> You are correct. The reason for that is that the CMT driver today is
>> >> optimized for combined clock event and clock source operation.
>> >>
>> >> Historically the hardware it initially was written for (sh-mobile on
>> >> the SH arch) only had a single timer channel so combined operation was
>> >> required for tickless to work. But since you're asking how to allocate
>> >> channels then I propose checking numbers of channels available and go
>> >> from there. With that the r8a7790 support can only get better. =)
>> >>
>> >> >> This is probably out of scope for this DT conversion, but it would be
>> >> >> neat if you somehow could specify the CPU affinity for a channel to
>> >> >> tie a clock event to an individual CPU core. This would make a a per-
>> >> >> cpu timer unless I'm mistaken. But that's more of a software policy
>> >> >> than anything else.
>> >> >
>> >> > Yes, that's a configuration that needs to be specified somewhere. I
>> >> > don't know where though.
>> >>
>> >> As long as you have per-channel interrupts described in DT you can
>> >> probably handle this in a generic way in the driver.
>> >
>> > But how do we decide whether to use a single timer channel or one channel
>> > per CPU ? Will the kernel use one clock event device per CPU
>> > automatically ? I have to confess I have no idea how this works.
>>
>> I guess that's the tricky bit about timer support, it is a mix of
>> hardware description and software configuration. So it sounds to me
>> that we need some kind of software configuration interface. But it can
>> probably be considered when/if we add such kind of support to the
>> driver. Probably out of scope for now.
>>
>> Regardless it seems to me that the hardware description in DT doesn't
>> need to care about this.
>
> I'll revisit that later. Per-CPU timers is not a high priority for now, so
> I'll just return -EAGAIN :-)

Thanks, that's fine.

> Nonetheless, specifying which timer channel to use as a clock source and which
> channel to use as a clock event device might need to be specified in DT (or
> somewhere else, but I'm not sure what other options we have here).

I disagree about the need for specifying clock source or clock event
channel in DT.  Since per-cpu timers is out of scope for now then why
don't we simply just let the driver automatically allocate the during
run-time?

In case one CMT channel exists:
Use that for both clock source and clock event.

In case more than one CMT channel exists:
Use one separate channel for clock source and one separate channel for
clock event.

That would cover our existing use case, no?

Thanks,

/ magnus
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