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Date:	Tue, 18 Feb 2014 07:47:21 -0800 (PST)
From:	ChaosEsque Team <chaosesqueteam@...oo.com>
To:	One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc:	Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Honestly, f__k systemd and f__k lennart, and f__k the fans of them. Where's linus in all of this?

It sounds as if you have not heard the good news:
systemd.

Or you have not digested it enough:
systemd.

SystemD is touted as a new required "software stack" for linux
according to Pottering (who is a douchbag that should be kept away from computers
and other people's presentations) and his followers.

Gnome is requiring it, along with breaking compatability in libgtk
(eventhough libgtk is the GIMP's library, gnome folks have decided to take it over)

SystemD and gnome are embracing and extending everything.
They are extinguishing unix-like linux on the ground.

Their fans/employees/agents try to get systemd adopted
exclusively in every distro. To force everyone into compliance.
They are constantly constantly evangelizing systemd.
Anyone who opposes them is a troll and they have them banned.

They say if you don't like systemd etc, use mac or switch to bsd.
This included the debian-devs.

Lennart Pottering is the scumbag that is spearheading this.
Redhat is the company.

Fuck SystemD

--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 2/17/14, One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk> wrote:

 Subject: Re: Honestly, f__k systemd and f__k lennart, and f__k the fans of them. Where's linus in all of this?
 To: "ChaosEsque Team" <chaosesqueteam@...oo.com>
 Cc: "Borislav Petkov" <bp@...en8.de>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
 Date: Monday, February 17, 2014, 7:22 AM
 
 > And maybe make a statement that
 linux is NOT systemd, there is no
 > new "linux software stack" that pottering and friends
 keep insisting on.
 
 The largest Linux user is Android, which I don't think uses
 systemd. The
 kernel does not care. You can use emacs as your init for all
 the kernel
 cares and handle all your udev messages in emacs lisp.
 
 The kernel does not care. Indeed if the kernel did care
 about whether
 someone used systemd, forked Debian or wanted to run emacs
 lisp as their
 init then it would mean the architecture was wrong.
 
 It's simply not the kernel's problem what people run as init
 and if
 Debian wishes to divide into two distributions (Deb and Ian
 perhaps...)
 then this is the wrong list for that debate.
 
 Alan
 
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