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Message-ID: <20140218214047.GU14089@laptop.programming.kicks-ass.net>
Date:	Tue, 18 Feb 2014 22:40:47 +0100
From:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
To:	Torvald Riegel <triegel@...hat.com>
Cc:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Alec Teal <a.teal@...wick.ac.uk>,
	Paul McKenney <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@....com>,
	Ramana Radhakrishnan <Ramana.Radhakrishnan@....com>,
	David Howells <dhowells@...hat.com>,
	"linux-arch@...r.kernel.org" <linux-arch@...r.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"akpm@...ux-foundation.org" <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	"mingo@...nel.org" <mingo@...nel.org>,
	"gcc@....gnu.org" <gcc@....gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/5] arch: atomic rework

On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 10:21:56PM +0100, Torvald Riegel wrote:
> Well, that's how atomics that aren't volatile are defined in the
> standard.  I can see that you want something else too, but that doesn't
> mean that the other thing is broken.

Well that other thing depends on being able to see the entire program at
compile time. PaulMck already listed various ways in which this is
not feasible even for normal userspace code.

In particular; DSOs and JITs were mentioned.
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