Message-ID: <530D9399.4050306@redhat.com>
Date:	Wed, 26 Feb 2014 15:11:21 +0800
From:	Jason Wang <jasowang@...hat.com>
To:	Qin Chuanyu <qinchuanyu@...wei.com>
CC:	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@...hat.com>, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	virtualization@...ts.linux-foundation.org,
	virtio-dev@...ts.oasis-open.org, kvm@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net] vhost: net: switch to use data copy if pending DMAs
 exceed the limit

On 02/26/2014 02:32 PM, Qin Chuanyu wrote:
> On 2014/2/26 13:53, Jason Wang wrote:
>> On 02/25/2014 09:57 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>> On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 02:53:58PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
>>>> We used to stop the handling of tx when the number of pending DMAs
>>>> exceeds VHOST_MAX_PEND. This is used to reduce the memory occupation
>>>> of both host and guest. But it was too aggressive in some cases, since
>>>> any delay or blocking of a single packet may delay or block the guest
>>>> transmission. Consider the following setup:
>>>>
>>>>      +-----+        +-----+
>>>>      | VM1 |        | VM2 |
>>>>      +--+--+        +--+--+
>>>>         |              |
>>>>      +--+--+        +--+--+
>>>>      | tap0|        | tap1|
>>>>      +--+--+        +--+--+
>>>>         |              |
>>>>      pfifo_fast   htb(10Mbit/s)
>>>>         |              |
>>>>      +--+--------------+---+
>>>>      |     bridge          |
>>>>      +--+------------------+
>>>>         |
>>>>      pfifo_fast
>>>>         |
>>>>      +-----+
>>>>      | eth0|(100Mbit/s)
>>>>      +-----+
>>>>
>>>> - start two VMs and connect them to a bridge
>>>> - add an physical card (100Mbit/s) to that bridge
>>>> - setup htb on tap1 and limit its throughput to 10Mbit/s
>>>> - run two netperfs in the same time, one is from VM1 to VM2. 
>>>> Another is
>>>>    from VM1 to an external host through eth0.
>>>> - result shows that not only the VM1 to VM2 traffic were throttled but
>>>>    also the VM1 to external host through eth0 is also throttled 
>>>> somehow.
>>>>
>>>> This is because the delay added by htb may lead the delay the finish
>>>> of DMAs and cause the pending DMAs for tap0 exceeds the limit
>>>> (VHOST_MAX_PEND). In this case vhost stop handling tx request until
>>>> htb send some packets. The problem here is all of the packets
>>>> transmission were blocked even if it does not go to VM2.
>>>>
>>>> We can solve this issue by relaxing it a little bit: switching to use
>>>> data copy instead of stopping tx when the number of pending DMAs
>>>> exceed the VHOST_MAX_PEND. This is safe because:
>>>>
>>>> - The number of pending DMAs were still limited by VHOST_MAX_PEND
>>>> - The out of order completion during mode switch can make sure that
>>>>    most of the tx buffers were freed in time in guest.
>>>>
>>>> So even if about 50% packets were delayed in zero-copy case, vhost
>>>> could continue to do the transmission through data copy in this case.
>>>>
>>>> Test result:
>>>>
>>>> Before this patch:
>>>> VM1 to VM2 throughput is 9.3Mbit/s
>>>> VM1 to External throughput is 40Mbit/s
>>>>
>>>> After this patch:
>>>> VM1 to VM2 throughput is 9.3Mbit/s
>>>> Vm1 to External throughput is 93Mbit/s
>>> Would like to see CPU utilization #s as well.
>>>
>>
>> Will measure this.
>>>> Simple performance test on 40gbe shows no obvious changes in
>>>> throughput after this patch.
>>>>
>>>> The patch only solve this issue when unlimited sndbuf. We still need a
>>>> solution for limited sndbuf.
>>>>
>>>> Cc: Michael S. Tsirkin<mst@...hat.com>
>>>> Cc: Qin Chuanyu<qinchuanyu@...wei.com>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Jason Wang<jasowang@...hat.com>
>>> I think this needs some thought.
>>>
>>> In particular I think this works because VHOST_MAX_PEND
>>> is much smaller than the ring size.
>>> Shouldn't max_pend then be tied to the ring size if it's small?
>>>
>>
>> Yes it should. I just reuse the VHOST_MAX_PEND since it was there for a
>> long time.
>>> Another question is about stopping vhost:
>>> ATM it's waiting for skbs to complete.
>>> Should we maybe hunt down skbs queued and destroy them
>>> instead?
>>> I think this happens when a device is removed.
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>
>> Agree, vhost net removal should not be blocked by a skb. But since the
>> skbs could be queued may places, just destroy them may need extra locks.
>>
>> Haven't thought this deeply, but another possible sloution is to rcuify
>> destructor_arg and assign it to NULL during vhost_net removing.
>
> Xen treat it by a timer, for those skbs which has been delivered for a
> while, netback would exchange page of zero_copy's skb with dom0's page.
>
> but there is still a race between host's another process handle the skb
> and netback exchange its page. (This problem has been proved by testing)
>
> and Xen hasn't solved this problem yet, because if anyone want to solve
> this problem completely, a page lock is necessary, but it would be
> complex and expensive.
>
> rcuify destructor arg and assign it to NULL couldn't solve the problem
> of page release that has been reserved by host's another process.
>

There're two issues:

1) if a zerocopy skb won't be freed or frags orphaned in time, vhost_net 
removal will be blocked since it was waiting for the refcnt of ubuf to zero.
2) whether or not we should free all pending skbs during vhost_net removing.

My proposal is for issue 1. Another idea is not wait for the refcnt to 
be zero and then we can defer the freeing of vhost_net during the 
release method of kref_put().

For issue 2, I'm still not sure we should do this or not. Looks like 
there's a similar issue for the packets sent by tcp_sendpage() was 
blocked or delayed.
> The key problem is how to release the memory of zero_copy's skb while
> been reserved. 

--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Powered by blists - more mailing lists