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Message-Id: <20140302142352.52A6A3E3@m0005309.ppops.net>
Date:	Sun, 2 Mar 2014 14:23:52 -0800
From:	"NoTo CTTE" <usspookslovesystmd@...homail.com>
To:	<yaro@...upa.net>
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Subject: Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely -
 SysV is fine

You say nothing because there is nothing that you can say.

Simplicity is beautiful, and it works.

Systemd is a nightmare, but you are using politics and psyops to push it on
every single linux user, every distro, everywhere.

I showed you code that does your vaunted concurrent boot systemddeeeee in a few
lines of shell.

That simplicity was the way unix and linux was, before the windows programmers
and the govt funded companies sunk their teeth into linux.

You know what & does.
I guess not, you're too new to gnu.

--- yaro@...upa.net wrote:

From: yaro@...upa.net
To: usspookslovesystmd@...homail.com
Subject: Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely - SysV is fine
Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 16:15:41 -0600

On Sunday, March 02, 2014 02:12:48 PM NoTo CTTE wrote:
> System V is NOT hard to "maintain"
> The scripts were written YEARS ago. They're fine. They do NOT need to be
> changed. Debian SysV has concurrent boot aswell.
> 
> Systemd is a poison apple. 200k lines of unaudited root privlege code. A
> consulting service to go along with this new _operating system_
> 
> Here's an under 100 line init with concurrent boot:
> 
> #include <signal.h>
> #include <unistd.h>
> 
> int main()
> {
> sigset_t set;
> int status;
> 
> if (getpid() != 1) return 1;
> 
> sigfillset(&set);
> sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, &set, 0);
> 
> if (fork()) for (;;) wait(&status);
> 
> sigprocmask(SIG_UNBLOCK, &set, 0);
> 
> setsid();
> setpgid(0, 0);
> return execve("/etc/rc", (char *[]){ "rc", 0 }, (char *[]){ 0 });
> }
> 
> >/etc/rc is a shell script
> >syslogd && getty ; udev ; network-config ; sshd & cron & nginx
> 
> see how much bullsht systemd is.
> 
> 
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It'd be almost too easy to mock a laughable post like this, but I'll let 
someone else do it. It's just not fun anymore.

Conrad




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