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Date:	Fri, 7 Mar 2014 12:17:57 +0100
From:	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@...ux-m68k.org>
To:	David Herrmann <dh.herrmann@...il.com>
Cc:	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Linux Fbdev development list <linux-fbdev@...r.kernel.org>,
	Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@...com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] lib: remove FBCON dependency for fonts

On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 11:58 AM, David Herrmann <dh.herrmann@...il.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Geert Uytterhoeven
> <geert@...ux-m68k.org> wrote:
>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 11:47 AM, David Herrmann <dh.herrmann@...il.com> wrote:
>>>> Without the "depends on FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE", people who don't
>>>> have FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE set, but have set any of these:
>>>>
>>>> config EARLY_PRINTK_EFI
>>>>     select FONT_SUPPORT
>>>>
>>>> config VIDEO_VIVI
>>>>     select FONT_SUPPORT
>>>>     select FONT_8x16
>>>>
>>>> config SOLO6X10
>>>>     select FONT_SUPPORT
>>>>     select FONT_8x16
>>>>
>>>> config USB_SISUSBVGA
>>>>     select FONT_SUPPORT
>>>>     ...
>>>>     select FONT_8x16
>>>>
>>>> config SGI_NEWPORT_CONSOLE
>>>>     select FONT_SUPPORT
>>>>
>>>> config STI_CONSOLE
>>>>     select FONT_SUPPORT
>>>>
>>>> will now get more (unused) fonts in their kernel image.
>>>
>>> Why would they get more unused fonts? All those fonts are "default n"
>>> (except for some arch-specific stuff and 8x8 and obviously 8x16). I
>>
>> So they get the 8x8 and the arch-specific ones by default (FONTS=n).
>
> They also get it if they enable FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE (which most people
> do, right?). I don't understand why we want multiple fonts compiled-in

I was more thinking of the CONFIG_FB=n case.

> at all, but ok, that's not up to me.

Frame buffer users may do so.

>>> don't mind if we drop this, but it makes font-selection impossible if
>>> fbcon is disabled, which is kinda unexpected.
>>
>> IIRC, drivers that "select FONT_8x16" have the font name hardcoded in
>> the driver, so allowing to select more fonts doesn't gain anything for them.
>
> I don't. I use get_default_font() in the new drm_log.c patches.

Good ;-)

> Anyhow, I'm fine with 8x16, I just thought people might want to select
> other fonts. But I guess it's up to them to deal with that, as long as
> I use get_default_font() I guess I don't care.

If you want to allow people to select more fonts, you can drop the "depends on
FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE" for "config FONTS", and move the dependency
for the individual fonts into the "default y if" clause, right?

E.g.

 config FONT_6x11
        bool "Mac console 6x11 font (not supported by all drivers)" if FONTS
        default y if !SPARC && !FONTS && MAC && FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE
        help


(one more cleanup: several of the "!SPARC" can be removed, as they're
 implied by e.g. "MAC" and "ARM").

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@...ux-m68k.org

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
                                -- Linus Torvalds
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