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Date:	Sun, 9 Mar 2014 11:57:09 -0700
From:	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...mgrid.com>
To:	Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@...il.com>
Cc:	"David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
	Daniel Borkmann <dborkman@...hat.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>, Will Drewry <wad@...omium.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
	Hagen Paul Pfeifer <hagen@...u.net>,
	Jesse Gross <jesse@...ira.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@...achi.com>,
	Tom Zanussi <tom.zanussi@...ux.intel.com>,
	Jovi Zhangwei <jovi.zhangwei@...il.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...radead.org>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@....fi>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, netdev@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 net-next 1/3] filter: add Extended BPF interpreter and converter

On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@...il.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 2014-03-09 at 10:38 -0700, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
>> On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 7:45 AM, Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@...il.com> wrote:
>> > On Sat, 2014-03-08 at 15:15 -0800, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
>> >
>> >> +/**
>> >> + *   sk_run_filter_ext - run an extended filter
>> >> + *   @ctx: buffer to run the filter on
>> >> + *   @insn: filter to apply
>> >> + *
>> >> + * Decode and execute extended BPF instructions.
>> >> + * @ctx is the data we are operating on.
>> >> + * @filter is the array of filter instructions.
>> >> + */
>> >> +notrace u32 sk_run_filter_ext(void *ctx, const struct sock_filter_ext *insn)
>> >> +{
>> >> +     u64 stack[64];
>> >> +     u64 regs[16];
>> >> +     void *ptr;
>> >> +     u64 tmp;
>> >> +     int off;
>>
>> First of all, great that you finally reviewed it! Feedback is appreciated :)
>>
>> > Why is this 'notrace' ?
>>
>> to avoid overhead of dummy call.
>> JITed filters are not adding this dummy call.
>> So 'notrace' on interpreter brings it to parity with JITed filters.
>
> Then its a wrong reason.

fine. I'll remove it then.

> At the time we wrote JIT, there was (yet) no support for profiling JIT
> from perf tools. I asked for help and nobody answered.
>
> Maybe this has changed, if so, please someone add support.

I have few ideas on how to get the line number info from C
into ebpf via llvm. Mainly to have nice messages when
kernel rejects ebpf filter when it fails safety check.
but that will come several commits from now.
This info can be used to beautify perf tools as well.

>>
>> > 80 u64 on the stack, that is 640 bytes to run a filter ????
>>
>> yes. that was described in commit log and in Doc...filter.txt:
>> "
>> - 16 4-byte stack slots for register spill-fill replaced with
>>   up to 512 bytes of multi-use stack space
>> "
>>
>> For interpreter it is prohibitive to dynamically allocate stack space
>> that's why it just grabs 64*8 to run any program.
>
> Where is checked the max capacity of this stack ?

In case of sk_convert_filter() case the converted ebpf filter
is guaranteed to use max 4*16 bytes of stack, since sk_chk_filter()
verified old bpf.

In case of ebpf, the check is done in several places.
In V1 series there are check_stack_boundary() and
check_mem_access() functions which are called from bpf_check()
(which will be renamed to sk_chk_filter_ext())
Here is a macro and comment from V1 series:
+/* JITed code allocates 512 bytes and used bottom 4 slots
+ * to save R6-R9
+ */
+#define MAX_BPF_STACK (512 - 4 * 8)

So sk_chk_filter_ext() enforces 480 byte limit for ebpf program
itself and 512 of real CPU stack is allocated by ebpf jit-ed program.
As I was saying in previous email I was planning to make
this stack allocation less hard coded for JITed program.
Here is relevant comment from V1 series:
+ * Future improvements:
+ * stack size is hardcoded to 512 bytes maximum per program, relax it

In sk_run_filter_ext() I used "u64 stack[64];", but "u64 stack[60];" is
safe too, but I didn't want to go into extensive explanation
of 'magic' 60 number in the first patch, so I just rounded it to 64.
Since now you understand, I can make it stack[60] now :)

Or, even better, I can reintroduce MAX_BPF_STACK into
this patch set and use it in sk_run_filter_ext()...

I will also add:
BUILD_BUG_ON(BPF_MEMWORDS * sizeof(u32) > MAX_BPF_STACK);
to make sure that old filters via sk_convert_filter() stay correct.

Thanks
Alexei
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