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Message-ID: <20140331083210.GX24917@pengutronix.de>
Date:	Mon, 31 Mar 2014 10:32:10 +0200
From:	Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@...gutronix.de>
To:	Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@...asonboard.com>
Cc:	Sylwester Nawrocki <s.nawrocki@...sung.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org, mturquette@...aro.org,
	mark.rutland@....com, devicetree@...r.kernel.org,
	linux@....linux.org.uk, gregkh@...uxfoundation.org,
	t.figa@...sung.com, sw0312.kim@...sung.com,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, kyungmin.park@...sung.com,
	robh+dt@...nel.org, galak@...eaurora.org, grant.likely@...aro.org,
	m.szyprowski@...sung.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v3 2/2] clk: Add handling of clk parent and rate
 assigned from DT

On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 05:44:17PM +0100, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> Hi Sascha,
> 
> On Thursday 27 March 2014 15:47:12 Sascha Hauer wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 03:08:10PM +0100, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> 
> > > That's clearer indeed. Can the parents and rates depend on the board, or
> > > on the SoC only ? We might be getting dangerously close to specifying
> > > platform configuration instead of describing the hardware. A real example
> > > might be nice to support the discussion.
> > 
> > This patch comes just at the right time. This is what I do with it:
> > 
> > #define cko1_sel 57
> > #define pll4_audio_div 203
> > #define pll4_audio 173
> > #define ssi3_sel 47
> > 
> > &clks {
> > 	assigned-clocks {
> > 		clocks = <&clks cko1_sel>, <&clks ssi3_sel>, <&clks pll4_audio>;
> > 		clock-parents = <&clks pll4_audio_div>, <&clks pll4_audio_div>, <0>;
> > 		clock-rates = <0>, <0>, <786432000>;
> > 	};
> > };
> > 
> > cko1_sel is a clock that can be routed out of the SoC. In my case it is
> > connected the sysclk of an external Audio Codec. ssi3_sel drives my SoC
> > internal I2S unit which I use in master mode. The above makes sure that
> > the I2S unit and the the external codec both get their clock from the
> > audio PLL. The audio PLL is configured to a rate of 786432000Hz which
> > is an exact multiple of the desired audio clock.
> 
> Thank you for the example.
> 
> Are the cko1_sel and ssi3_sel used only by the external audio codec and 
> internal I2S unit respectively ? If so, it might make sense to move the 
> configuration of their parent to the audio codec and I2S unit DT nodes. 
> However, grouping the parent configuration and the pll4 rate configuration in 
> a single place makes sense as well. Guidelines are probably needed.

I didn't bother much to find the right place for the nodes. It indeed
might make sense to put them under the I2S unit and the codec. However,
the clock-rate is a shared property between the I2S unit and the codec
which probably should better be placed under the block which provides
the clocks.

> 
> I get a slight feeling of uneasiness about this, probably because we're at the 
> boundary between hardware description and system configuration. Encoding in DT 
> that "for this particular board this particular clock must be configured this 
> particular way" sounds fine to me, but we need to make sure it won't turn to 
> software-driven rather than hardware-driven use case descriptions.

I agree this is in the grey area between hardware and software
description. At least on i.MX it happens with audio and video that
totally unrelated units share a clock. Often it's next to impossible to
find an algorithm that configures the clocks correctly without the help
of hardcoded assumptions about parents and rates. I find specifying this
in the devicetree much more convenient than writing board specific code
each time.

Sascha

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