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Date:	Tue, 1 Apr 2014 11:05:16 +0200
From:	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@...aro.org>
To:	Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@...aro.org>
Cc:	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	"rjw@...ysocki.net" <rjw@...ysocki.net>,
	Nicolas Pitre <nicolas.pitre@...aro.org>,
	"linux-pm@...r.kernel.org" <linux-pm@...r.kernel.org>,
	Alex Shi <alex.shi@...aro.org>,
	Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@....com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCHC 0/3] sched/idle : find the idlest cpu with cpuidle info

On 1 April 2014 09:43, Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@...aro.org> wrote:
> On 04/01/2014 09:16 AM, Vincent Guittot wrote:
>>
>> On 31 March 2014 17:55, Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@...aro.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 03/31/2014 03:52 PM, Vincent Guittot wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 28 March 2014 13:29, Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@...aro.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The following patchset provides an interaction between cpuidle and the
>>>>> scheduler.
>>>>>
>>>>> The first patch encapsulate the needed information for the scheduler in
>>>>> a
>>>>> separate cpuidle structure. The second one stores the pointer to this
>>>>> structure
>>>>> when entering idle. The third one, use this information to take the
>>>>> decision to
>>>>> find the idlest cpu.
>>>>>
>>>>> After some basic testing with hackbench, it appears there is an
>>>>> improvement for
>>>>> the performances (small) and for the duration of the idle states (which
>>>>> provides
>>>>> a better power saving).
>>>>>
>>>>> The measurement has been done with the 'idlestat' tool previously
>>>>> posted
>>>>> in this
>>>>> mailing list.
>>>>>
>>>>> So the benefit is good for both sides performance and power saving.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Daniel,
>>>>
>>>> I have looked at your results and i'm a bit surprised that you have so
>>>> much time in C-state with a test that involved 400 tasks on a dual
>>>> cores HT system. You shouldn't have any CPUs in idle state when
>>>> running hackbench; the total time of core0state in C7-IVB is
>>>> 87932131.00(us), which is quite huge for a bench that runs 44sec. Or
>>>> i'm doing something wrong in the interpretation of the results ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No, actually I mixed the output of hackbench without being run with
>>> idlestat
>>> or with idlestat.
>>>
>>> The hackbench's results below are without idlestat.
>>>
>>> The idlestat results are consistent and effectively it adds a non
>>> negligeable overhead as it impacts the hackbench results.
>>>
>>> So to summarize, hackbench has been run 4 times.
>>>
>>> 1, 2 : without idlestat, with and without the patchset - hackbench
>>> results
>>> ~42 secs
>>>
>>> 3, 4 : with idlestat, with and without the patchset - hackbench results
>>> ~87
>>> secs
>>>
>>> At the first the glance, the results are consistent but I will double
>>> check
>>> them.
>>>
>>> Do you have a suggestion for a benchmarking program ?
>>
>>
>> We are working on a bench which can generate middle load pattern with
>> idle CPUs but it's not available yet. In the mean time, one bench that
>> plays with idle time is cyclictest, it will not give you performance
>> results but only scheduling latency which might be what you are
>> looking for.
>
>
> Yeah, thanks. I believe I know what is in the rt-tests package :)
>
> What I meant is what kind of values would you like to see with this patchset
> ?

IIUC, you patch tries to improve the wake up latency of a task by
selecting the CPUs with the shallowest C-state, so this metrics seems
to be a good candidate

>
>
>
>
>>>>> The select_idle_sibling could be also improved in the same way.
>>>>>
>>>>> ====================== test with hackbench 3.14-rc8
>>>>> =========================
>>>>>
>>>>> /usr/bin/hackbench -l 10000 -s 4096
>>>>>
>>>>> Running in process mode with 10 groups using 40 file descriptors each
>>>>> (==
>>>>> 400 tasks)
>>>>> Each sender will pass 10000 messages of 4096 bytes
>>>>>
>>>>> Time: 44.433
>>>>>
>>>>> Total trace buffer: 1846688 kB
>>>>> clusterA@...te  hits          total(us)         avg(us) min(us) max(us)
>>>>>            POLL   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            C1-IVB 0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            C1E-VB 0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            C3-IVB 0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            C6-IVB 0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            C7-IVB 0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>     core0@...te   hits          total(us)         avg(us) min(us)
>>>>> max(us)
>>>>>           POLL    0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>           C1-IVB  0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>           C1E-IVB 0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>           C3-IVB  0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>           C6-IVB  0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>           C7-IVB  1396        87932131.00        62988.63 0.00
>>>>> 320146.00
>>>>>       cpu0@...te  hits          total(us)         avg(us) min(us)
>>>>> max(us)
>>>>>            POLL   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            C1-IVB 1                 14.00           14.00 14.00   14.00
>>>>>            C1E-VB 0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            C3-IVB 1                262.00          262.00 262.00
>>>>> 262.00
>>>>>            C6-IVB 0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            C7-IVB 1180        87938177.00        74523.88 1.00
>>>>> 320147.00
>>>>>            1701   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1700   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1600   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1500   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1400   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1300   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1200   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1100   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1000   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            900    0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.0
>>>>>            800    0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            782    0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>       cpu0 wakeups        name            count
>>>>>            irq009 acpi            1
>>>>>       cpu1@...te  hits          total(us)         avg(us) min(us)
>>>>> max(us)
>>>>>            POLL   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            C1-IVB 0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            C1E-VB 0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            C3-IVB 0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            C6-IVB 0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            C7-IVB 475         87941356.00       185139.70 322.00
>>>>> 1500690.00
>>>>>            1701   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1700   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1600   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1500   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1400   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1300   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1200   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1100   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1000   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            900    0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            800    0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            782    0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>       cpu1 wakeups        name            count
>>>>>            irq009 acpi            3
>>>>>     core1@...te   hits          total(us)         avg(us) min(us)
>>>>> max(us)
>>>>>           POLL    0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>           C1-IVB  0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>           C1E-IVB 0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>           C3-IVB  0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>           C6-IVB  0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>           C7-IVB  0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>       cpu2@...te  hits          total(us)         avg(us) min(us)
>>>>> max(us)
>>>>>            POLL   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            C1-IVB 11            288157.00        26196.09 16.00
>>>>> 200060.00
>>>>>            C1E-VB 6             221601.00        36933.50 79.00
>>>>> 200066.00
>>>>>            C3-IVB 0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            C6-IVB 0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            C7-IVB 950         87417466.00        92018.39 19.00
>>>>> 200074.00
>>>>>            1701   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1700   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1600   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1500   2                 34.00           17.00 11.00   23.00
>>>>>            1400   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1300   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1200   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1100   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1000   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            900    0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            800    0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            782    745            18800.00           25.23 2.00
>>>>> 156.00
>>>>>       cpu2 wakeups        name            count
>>>>>            irq019 ahci            50
>>>>>            irq009 acpi            17
>>>>>       cpu3@...te  hits          total(us)         avg(us) min(us)
>>>>> max(us)
>>>>>            POLL   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            C1-IVB 0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            C1E-VB 0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            C3-IVB 0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            C6-IVB 0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            C7-IVB 0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1701   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1700   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1600   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1500   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1400   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1300   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1200   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1100   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1000   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            900    0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            800    0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            782    0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>       cpu3 wakeups        name            count
>>>>>
>>>>> ================ test with hackbench 3.14-rc8 + patchset
>>>>> ====================
>>>>>
>>>>> /usr/bin/hackbench -l 10000 -s 4096
>>>>>
>>>>> Running in process mode with 10 groups using 40 file descriptors each
>>>>> (==
>>>>> 400 tasks)
>>>>> Each sender will pass 10000 messages of 4096 bytes
>>>>>
>>>>> Time: 42.179
>>>>>
>>>>> Total trace buffer: 1846688 kB
>>>>> clusterA@...te  hits          total(us)         avg(us) min(us) max(us)
>>>>>            POLL   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            C1-IVB 0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            C1E-VB 0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            C3-IVB 0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            C6-IVB 0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            C7-IVB 0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>     core0@...te   hits          total(us)         avg(us) min(us)
>>>>> max(us)
>>>>>           POLL    0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>           C1-IVB  0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>           C1E-IVB 0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>           C3-IVB  0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>           C6-IVB  0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>           C7-IVB  880         89157590.00       101315.44 0.00
>>>>> 400184.00
>>>>>       cpu0@...te  hits          total(us)         avg(us) min(us)
>>>>> max(us)
>>>>>            POLL   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            C1-IVB 0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            C1E-VB 1                233.00          233.00 233.00
>>>>> 233.00
>>>>>            C3-IVB 1                260.00          260.00 260.00
>>>>> 260.00
>>>>>            C6-IVB 0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            C7-IVB 700         89162006.00       127374.29 182.00
>>>>> 400187.00
>>>>>            1701   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1700   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1600   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1500   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1400   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1300   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1200   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1100   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1000   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            900    0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            800    0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            782    0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>       cpu0 wakeups        name            count
>>>>>            irq009 acpi            2
>>>>>       cpu1@...te  hits          total(us)         avg(us) min(us)
>>>>> max(us)
>>>>>            POLL   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            C1-IVB 0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            C1E-VB 0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            C3-IVB 0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            C6-IVB 0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            C7-IVB 334         89164805.00       266960.49 1.00
>>>>> 1500677.00
>>>>>            1701   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1700   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1600   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1500   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1400   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1300   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1200   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1100   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1000   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            900    0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            800    0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            782    0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>       cpu1 wakeups        name            count
>>>>>            irq009 acpi            6
>>>>>     core1@...te   hits          total(us)         avg(us) min(us)
>>>>> max(us)
>>>>>           POLL    0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>           C1-IVB  0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>           C1E-IVB 0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>           C3-IVB  0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>           C6-IVB  0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>           C7-IVB  0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>       cpu2@...te  hits          total(us)         avg(us) min(us)
>>>>> max(us)
>>>>>            POLL   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            C1-IVB 19           2169047.00       114160.37 18.00
>>>>> 999129.00
>>>>>            C1E-IB 0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            C3-IVB 0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            C6-IVB 0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            C7-IVB 376         86993307.00       231365.18 20.00
>>>>> 1500682.00
>>>>>            1701   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1700   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1600   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1500   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1400   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1300   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1200   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1100   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1000   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            900    0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            800    0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            782    0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>       cpu2 wakeups        name            count
>>>>>            irq009 acpi            32
>>>>>            irq019 ahci            45
>>>>>       cpu3@...te  hits          total(us)         avg(us) min(us)
>>>>> max(us)
>>>>>            POLL   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            C1-IVB 0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            C1E-VB 0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            C3-IVB 0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            C6-IVB 0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            C7-IVB 0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1701   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1700   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1600   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1500   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1400   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1300   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1200   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1100   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            1000   0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            900    0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            800    0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>            782    0                  0.00            0.00 0.00    0.00
>>>>>       cpu3 wakeups        name            count
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Daniel Lezcano (3):
>>>>>     cpuidle: encapsulate power info in a separate structure
>>>>>     idle: store the idle state the cpu is
>>>>>     sched/fair: use the idle state info to choose the idlest cpu
>>>>>
>>>>>    arch/arm/include/asm/cpuidle.h       |    6 +-
>>>>>    arch/arm/mach-exynos/cpuidle.c       |    4 +-
>>>>>    drivers/acpi/processor_idle.c        |    4 +-
>>>>>    drivers/base/power/domain.c          |    6 +-
>>>>>    drivers/cpuidle/cpuidle-at91.c       |    4 +-
>>>>>    drivers/cpuidle/cpuidle-big_little.c |    9 +--
>>>>>    drivers/cpuidle/cpuidle-calxeda.c    |    6 +-
>>>>>    drivers/cpuidle/cpuidle-kirkwood.c   |    4 +-
>>>>>    drivers/cpuidle/cpuidle-powernv.c    |    8 +--
>>>>>    drivers/cpuidle/cpuidle-pseries.c    |   12 ++--
>>>>>    drivers/cpuidle/cpuidle-ux500.c      |   14 ++---
>>>>>    drivers/cpuidle/cpuidle-zynq.c       |    4 +-
>>>>>    drivers/cpuidle/driver.c             |    6 +-
>>>>>    drivers/cpuidle/governors/ladder.c   |   14 +++--
>>>>>    drivers/cpuidle/governors/menu.c     |    8 +--
>>>>>    drivers/cpuidle/sysfs.c              |    2 +-
>>>>>    drivers/idle/intel_idle.c            |  112
>>>>> +++++++++++++++++-----------------
>>>>>    include/linux/cpuidle.h              |   10 ++-
>>>>>    kernel/sched/fair.c                  |   46 ++++++++++++--
>>>>>    kernel/sched/idle.c                  |   17 +++++-
>>>>>    kernel/sched/sched.h                 |    5 ++
>>>>>    21 files changed, 180 insertions(+), 121 deletions(-)
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> 1.7.9.5
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
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