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Message-ID: <20140411061202.GA8321@type>
Date:	Fri, 11 Apr 2014 08:12:02 +0200
From:	Samuel Thibault <samuel.thibault@...-lyon.org>
To:	Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@...il.com>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>,
	David Herrmann <dh.herrmann@...il.com>,
	akpm@...ux-foundation.org, jslaby@...e.cz,
	Bryan Wu <cooloney@...il.com>, rpurdie@...ys.net,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Evan Broder <evan@...oder.net>,
	Arnaud Patard <arnaud.patard@...-net.org>,
	Peter Korsgaard <jacmet@...site.dk>,
	Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@...gutronix.de>,
	Matt Sealey <matt@...esi-usa.com>,
	Rob Clark <robdclark@...il.com>,
	Niels de Vos <devos@...oraproject.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org,
	Steev Klimaszewski <steev@...esi-usa.com>, blogic@...nwrt.org,
	Pali Rohár <pali.rohar@...il.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Route keyboard LEDs through the generic LEDs layer.

Hello,

I'm sorry this went out with a few mistakes.

Samuel Thibault, le Wed 09 Apr 2014 01:33:06 +0200, a écrit :
> Dmitry Torokhov, le Tue 08 Apr 2014 01:39:40 -0700, a écrit :
> > It is not about the VT, I am talking about pure input core. If I
> > repurpose CapsLock LED for my WiFi indicator I do not want to go into
> > other programs and teach them that they should stay away from trying to
> > control this LED.
> 
> Err, but even without talking about repurposing Capslock LED for WiFi...
> How is managed the conflict between the normal capslock behavior and
> other programs' action on the underlying input device?  I don't think
> this patch does not introduce the problem.

I of course meant "I don't think this patch introduces the problem".

> How to decide which one to prioritize?
> 
> Is it just because console-setup happens to repurpose the capslock LED
> key that applications should suddenly not have capslock LED control
> at all?  That's contradictory with the use case you have given.

Oops, not the use case you have given, but a typical use-case of wanting
to use a program which does nice things with the capslock LED, and then
having to teach console-setup not to repurpose the capslock LED.

> That
> leads me into believing that we should not try to push a hard rule, and
> just let the user manage what accesses it.  We could indeed make the VT
> always take priority, but then that would probably break some existing
> applications.

Such as the example above, with the capslock LED.

Samuel
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