linux-kernel - Re: [Query]: tick-sched: why don't we stop tick when we are running idle task?

lists.openwall.net		lists / announce owl-users owl-dev john-users john-dev passwdqc-users yescrypt popa3d-users / oss-security kernel-hardening musl sabotage tlsify passwords / crypt-dev xvendor / Bugtraq Full-Disclosure linux-kernel linux-netdev linux-ext4 linux-hardening linux-cve-announce PHC
Open Source and information security mailing list archives

Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.

[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]

Date:	Tue, 15 Apr 2014 11:30:04 +0200
From:	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>
To:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
Cc:	Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@...aro.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Lists linaro-kernel <linaro-kernel@...ts.linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [Query]: tick-sched: why don't we stop tick when we are running
 idle task?

On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 02:06:00PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 05:22:30PM +0530, Viresh Kumar wrote:
> > On 14 April 2014 17:17, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org> wrote:
> > > What causes this tick? I was under the impression that once there's a
> > > single task (not doing any syscalls) and the above issues are sorted, no
> > > more tick would happen.
> > 
> > This is what Frederic told me earlier:
> > 
> > https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/2/13/238
> 
> That's a bit of a non-answer. I'm fairly sure its not a gazillion
> issues, since the actual scheduler tick doesn't actually do that much.
> 
> So start by enumerating what is actually required.

Ok, I'm a bit buzy with a conference right now but I'm going to summarize that
soonish.

> 
> The 2), which I suppose you're now trying to implement is I think
> entirely the wrong way. The tick really assumes it runs local, moving it
> to another CPU is insane.

There is probably a few things that assume local calls but last time
I checked I had the impression that it was fairly possible to call sched_class::task_tick()
remotely. rq is locked, no reference to "current", use rq accessors...

OTOH scheduler_tick() itself definetly requires local calls.
--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/