linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 3/3] cgroup: implement cgroup.subtree

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Date:	Wed, 16 Apr 2014 12:16:52 +0800
From:	Li Zefan <lizefan@...wei.com>
To:	Kay Sievers <kay@...y.org>
CC:	Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>, <containers@...ts.linux-foundation.org>,
	<cgroups@...r.kernel.org>, LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	<john@...nmccutchan.com>, <rlove@...ve.org>,
	<eparis@...isplace.org>,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
	<serge.hallyn@...ntu.com>,
	Lennart Poettering <lennart@...ttering.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] cgroup: implement cgroup.subtree_populated for the
 default hierarchy

On 2014/4/16 11:33, Kay Sievers wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 7:48 PM, Li Zefan <lizefan@...wei.com> wrote:
>> On 2014/4/15 5:44, Tejun Heo wrote:
>>> cgroup users often need a way to determine when a cgroup's
>>> subhierarchy becomes empty so that it can be cleaned up.  cgroup
>>> currently provides release_agent for it; unfortunately, this mechanism
>>> is riddled with issues.
>>>
>>> * It delivers events by forking and execing a userland binary
>>>   specified as the release_agent.  This is a long deprecated method of
>>>   notification delivery.  It's extremely heavy, slow and cumbersome to
>>>   integrate with larger infrastructure.
>>>
>>> * There is single monitoring point at the root.  There's no way to
>>>   delegate management of subtree.
>>>
>>> * The event isn't recursive.  It triggers when a cgroup doesn't have
>>>   any tasks or child cgroups.  Events for internal nodes trigger only
>>>   after all children are removed.  This again makes it impossible to
>>>   delegate management of subtree.
>>>
>>> * Events are filtered from the kernel side.  "notify_on_release" file
>>>   is used to subscribe to or suppress release event.  This is
>>>   unnecessarily complicated and probably done this way because event
>>>   delivery itself was expensive.
>>>
>>> This patch implements interface file "cgroup.subtree_populated" which
>>> can be used to monitor whether the cgroup's subhierarchy has tasks in
>>> it or not.  Its value is 0 if there is no task in the cgroup and its
>>> descendants; otherwise, 1, and kernfs_notify() notificaiton is
>>> triggers when the value changes, which can be monitored through poll
>>> and [di]notify.
>>>
>>
>> For the old notification mechanism, the path of the cgroup that becomes
>> empty will be passed to the user specified release agent. Like this:
>>
>> # cat /sbin/cpuset_release_agent
>> #!/bin/sh
>> rmdir /dev/cpuset/$1
>>
>> How do we achieve this using inotify?
>>
>> - monitor all the cgroups, or
>> - monitor all the leaf cgroups, and travel cgrp->parent to delete all
>>   empty cgroups.
>> - monitor root cgroup only, and travel the whole hierarchy to find
>>   empy cgroups when it gets an fs event.
>>
>> Seems none of them is scalible.
> 
> The manager would add all cgroups as watches to one inotify file
> descriptor, it should not be problem to do that.
> 

Never use inotify. Thanks for explanation, so I think inotify can scale
to thounsands of cgroups after I googled a bit.

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